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11-10-2015, 11:12 AM
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Bill Crockett
2012 27' FB International
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Parker
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It should not cost $7500 to repair it. The fuel filters should have alerted you of a problem. I suspect the worse case scenerio would be you burned up a few fuel injectors. The engine is designed so that injectors can be easily replaced. Eventually they fail under normal conditions.
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11-10-2015, 11:29 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
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Several years ago my neighbor filled his ford 7.3 powerstroke with gasoline, he drove almost 40 mile,noticed the miss, hauled it to my shop, I drained the tanks, changed the fuel filter, blew out all the fuel lines with diesel fuel, it run fine for 6 weeks, then changed injector pump and injectors, 6 months later it took a reman engine. Very expensive lesson, the new computerized injector are very expensive...
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11-10-2015, 12:30 PM
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New Member
1964 19' Globetrotter
Auburn
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I did the exact same thing in Wisconsin with my then new 2011 Sprinter, used the green handle, drove a couple miles, ran funny, went back to station to discover BP used green for gas. Siphoned out the tank, pushed it back to pump, filled with diesel and drove off. Filled again in 100 miles (to delete as much as possible) and kept doing that for the next 500 miles on way back to California. That was 60,000 miles ago, no issues.
Sadly, it had happened once before with my 7.3 Ford in Ashland, Oregon (where they must pump the fuel) the attendant put in gas while I went inside. Droving to California, went about ten miles to border where it quit running. Towed to Ford dealer in Ca. He said it happens @ 20 times a year from Oregon. They flushed system in a couple hrs, assured me there was not any damage and I put another 100,000+ miles on it without any issues.
You SHOULD be fine
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11-10-2015, 12:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
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First time diesel owner here and reading this thread with interest. I'm going to be very careful I read the pumps and will watch who pumps for me in the goofy states.
Kelvin
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11-10-2015, 12:55 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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I have almost done the same thing a couple of times. I have become a little paranoid about it and now smell the fuel nozzle before putting it in the truck. The smell of diesel is very distinctive. Doing this makes me pay more attention to what I'm doing.
Brian
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11-10-2015, 12:58 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
North/East
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I always sniff the nozzle before pumping diesel in my truck or my boat.
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11-10-2015, 01:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 Interstate Coach
Arroyo Grande & Central Point
, California & Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Morgan
Do you suppose that it is just a coincidence that the dealer has a $9,000 solution to a problem that I have gotten out of for about $200 plus towing three times now?
Sorry about my skepticism, SOMETIMES "the experts" are all about making a buck....
Brevi tempore!
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Same story here, I fueled my VW Jetta Diesel with regular gas, discovered it within a mile and had it towed. Dealer quoted $700. A local German automotive specialist did it for under $200.
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11-10-2015, 03:34 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 31' Classic
Buhl
, Idaho
Join Date: Aug 2011
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My wife did the same thing to our pickup - she drove it home and then remembered!!! I drained the tank, refilled it with diesel and all was well - except we did burn the valves a little bit but nothing to worry about. Gasoline floats on diesel so if your tank draws from the bottom - and most do - you should be able to drive it for a little ways without any damage - unless, of course, you're driving on the bumpiest road in the USA!!
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11-10-2015, 05:01 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1966 24' Tradewind
2005 22' Safari
Bastrop
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2012
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A common practice 30 to fifty years back was to to add 5 gallons of gasoline to roughly 60 gallons of diesel in the winter to thin it out and prevent gelling. Diesel was harder to come by back in the day as there was not hardly any little trucks and cars that used it .
And pumps with #1 diesel were even scarcer , as well as costing more .
Never heard of , or experienced any problems from this practice.
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11-10-2015, 05:38 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goodshepherd
Gasoline floats on diesel so if your tank draws from the bottom - and most do - you should be able to drive it for a little ways without any damage
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One more excellent reason to fill the tank when it drops to half-full, instead of waiting until it's almost empty.
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11-10-2015, 05:58 PM
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I know B-5 is 5% Biodiesel. What's E-5?
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11-10-2015, 06:04 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NY24
I know B-5 is 5% Biodiesel. What's E-5?
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5% ethanol gasoline.
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11-10-2015, 08:31 PM
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2011 Interstate Coach
Overland Park
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The diesel nozzle will always be a little oily too.
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11-10-2015, 09:28 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2003 31' Classic
Terra Alta
, West Virginia
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I've heard of thinning diesel with kerosene for cold weather but not gasoline. The kero practice was common. Now it can cost you if pulled over for a fuel check. Dyed and undyed...taxes etc. Now just a good additive- especially in winter to prevent gel and add lubricity to the crappy low sulphur fuel.
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11-10-2015, 09:39 PM
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2016 30' Classic
Maitland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshAirStmr
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I just read an update. The engine ended up being destroyed. Since the truck was new, they got a new engine for $15,000. They owed only the $1000 insurance deductible.
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11-11-2015, 06:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wvstreamer
I've heard of thinning diesel with kerosene for cold weather but not gasoline. The kero practice was common. Now it can cost you if pulled over for a fuel check. Dyed and undyed...taxes etc. Now just a good additive- especially in winter to prevent gel and add lubricity to the crappy low sulphur fuel.
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Kerosene is basically number 1 fuel, in the 1950's and 60's when no number 1 fuel was available 2-3 gals of gas was put in a tank of fuel close to 100 gallons, this new clean fuel is a much better than the old fuel, it is cleaner, the paraffin is almost non existant, thus the jelling is not a concern unless it is really cold, your injectors last longer, my KW with a E model cat with original injectors has 1.4 million miles , unheard of 25 years ago, this new technology is better...and cleaner..
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11-11-2015, 06:17 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
League City
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dabeach
I always sniff the nozzle before pumping diesel in my truck or my boat.
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And I never leave without a receipt. If the pump fails to dispense a receipt because it is broken or out of paper, I trudge into the store and get them to print one out. Always good to glance at the receipt just for another layer of reality check.
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11-11-2015, 07:51 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB Eddie Bauer
Salado
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Hear ye the voice of experience. It happens. People with diesels do it very commonly and the dealerships love us for it. It is expensive to replace filters, drain the tank, flush the lines and injectors and all the other stuff, but we humans with AS campers can afford it or we would not be in this forum. My experience with this common occurrence happened on the Friday before a three-day weekend, and resulted in our first boondocking experience. Of course it was in a large empty lot about a quarter mile from the dealership where the tow driver deposited our truck, but it was boondocking.
The big takeaway was the negative reinforcement. I DO check carefully every time I lay hands on that pump handle now. The second take-away was that the solar panels could keep us running for three days even in semi-cloudy weather.
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11-11-2015, 01:47 PM
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2 Rivet Member
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2012 Interstate Coach
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Thanks everyone for your great advice.
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11-12-2015, 07:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Sequim
, Washington
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In Oregon motorcycles and diesels can be filled by the driver, but you must ask or they just do it for you. I usually fill up in WA before driving through OR on my way to CA to avoid the issue altogether. Same in the ethanol crazed Midwest. I do my best to get through states that REQUIRE biofuels in all the fuel sold (so I was told and casual observation supports) by timing fuel purchases.
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