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Old 11-10-2015, 06:01 PM   #29
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A common practice 30 to fifty years back was to to add 5 gallons of gasoline to roughly 60 gallons of diesel in the winter to thin it out and prevent gelling. Diesel was harder to come by back in the day as there was not hardly any little trucks and cars that used it .
And pumps with #1 diesel were even scarcer , as well as costing more .

Never heard of , or experienced any problems from this practice.
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Gasoline floats on diesel so if your tank draws from the bottom - and most do - you should be able to drive it for a little ways without any damage
One more excellent reason to fill the tank when it drops to half-full, instead of waiting until it's almost empty.
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I know B-5 is 5% Biodiesel. What's E-5?
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I know B-5 is 5% Biodiesel. What's E-5?
5% ethanol gasoline.
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Old 11-10-2015, 09:31 PM   #33
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The diesel nozzle will always be a little oily too.
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:28 PM   #34
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I've heard of thinning diesel with kerosene for cold weather but not gasoline. The kero practice was common. Now it can cost you if pulled over for a fuel check. Dyed and undyed...taxes etc. Now just a good additive- especially in winter to prevent gel and add lubricity to the crappy low sulphur fuel.
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:39 PM   #35
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I just read a blog post with a similar story:

Putting Regular Gas in a Diesel Vehicle | Camper Chronicles

The upshot is that your insurance company will likely cover it under "accidental fuel contamination."
I just read an update. The engine ended up being destroyed. Since the truck was new, they got a new engine for $15,000. They owed only the $1000 insurance deductible.
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Old 11-11-2015, 07:06 AM   #36
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I've heard of thinning diesel with kerosene for cold weather but not gasoline. The kero practice was common. Now it can cost you if pulled over for a fuel check. Dyed and undyed...taxes etc. Now just a good additive- especially in winter to prevent gel and add lubricity to the crappy low sulphur fuel.
Kerosene is basically number 1 fuel, in the 1950's and 60's when no number 1 fuel was available 2-3 gals of gas was put in a tank of fuel close to 100 gallons, this new clean fuel is a much better than the old fuel, it is cleaner, the paraffin is almost non existant, thus the jelling is not a concern unless it is really cold, your injectors last longer, my KW with a E model cat with original injectors has 1.4 million miles , unheard of 25 years ago, this new technology is better...and cleaner..
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Old 11-11-2015, 07:17 AM   #37
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I always sniff the nozzle before pumping diesel in my truck or my boat.
And I never leave without a receipt. If the pump fails to dispense a receipt because it is broken or out of paper, I trudge into the store and get them to print one out. Always good to glance at the receipt just for another layer of reality check.
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Hear ye the voice of experience. It happens. People with diesels do it very commonly and the dealerships love us for it. It is expensive to replace filters, drain the tank, flush the lines and injectors and all the other stuff, but we humans with AS campers can afford it or we would not be in this forum. My experience with this common occurrence happened on the Friday before a three-day weekend, and resulted in our first boondocking experience. Of course it was in a large empty lot about a quarter mile from the dealership where the tow driver deposited our truck, but it was boondocking.

The big takeaway was the negative reinforcement. I DO check carefully every time I lay hands on that pump handle now. The second take-away was that the solar panels could keep us running for three days even in semi-cloudy weather.
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Thanks everyone for your great advice.
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In Oregon motorcycles and diesels can be filled by the driver, but you must ask or they just do it for you. I usually fill up in WA before driving through OR on my way to CA to avoid the issue altogether. Same in the ethanol crazed Midwest. I do my best to get through states that REQUIRE biofuels in all the fuel sold (so I was told and casual observation supports) by timing fuel purchases.
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I have almost done the same thing a couple of times. I have become a little paranoid about it and now smell the fuel nozzle before putting it in the truck. The smell of diesel is very distinctive. Doing this makes me pay more attention to what I'm doing.

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Diesel exhaust is more hazardous than diesel fumes from the pump, only partly because you're exposed to more of it. It's the combustion byproducts that do the most damageó one reason why so many diesel engines today require DEF.

It doesn't take more than a quick sniff of the pump nozzle to tell the difference. You don't even need a full breath of it. You're not going to inhale enough fumes to cause lung cancer or liver cancer or any other kind even if you live to a ripe old age and never refuel anything but diesel tow vehicles.
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