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08-19-2014, 02:58 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 Interstate Ext. Coach
melrose
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first service
my 2014 interstate is going in for it's first service after 1 year and 7500 miles. what should i have done in addition to an oil change?
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08-19-2014, 03:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 Interstate Ext. Coach
Sedona
, Arizona
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If they are an authorized Sprinter dealer, then besides the oil change, they should undertake a pretty extensive check on all the important chassis items and maybe offer you a tire rotation. You might want to skip that at 7500 miles since it involves removing tires from the rims and is expensive.
Other than that, I've give them a list of any shake-down items that you want fixed under warranty.
And if you have clocked up more than 20 hours on the generator, it will also need a service as documented in the Onan manual. But the dealer may tell you they are not Onan service agents and refer you elsewhere. It should be taken care of anyway.
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08-19-2014, 04:20 PM
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2011 Interstate Coach
Overland Park
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Check your Sprinter manual for the req'd services at the 10K mark. Around 10K you'll need to refill the DEF reservoir. It takes about 5 gal and is available at Sam's and Walmart for ~$10-$12 for a 2.5 gallon container. A dealer will charge you an insane amount for this service.
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08-20-2014, 11:51 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2011 Interstate Coach
Tulsa
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Don't forget that the fuel filter gets changed each 10,000 miles. I service our oil every 5000 miles, fuel filter gets replaced every other oil service and each tank of fuel gets Power Service Diesel Kleen added. DEF is topped up each oil service.
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08-20-2014, 12:14 PM
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2024 Interstate 19
Fulton
, Maryland
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Check the MB Sprinter maintenance manual that came with the owners manual. The fuel filter change interval on my 2012 is 20,000 miles.
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08-20-2014, 12:22 PM
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2012 Interstate Coach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxster1971
Check the MB Sprinter maintenance manual that came with the owners manual. The fuel filter change interval on my 2012 is 20,000 miles.
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Ditto. Bit if you routinely use B5 biodiesel, it might be worthwhile to change the fuel filter sooner, though.
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08-20-2014, 01:35 PM
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2014 Interstate Ext. Coach
Sedona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxster1971
Check the MB Sprinter maintenance manual that came with the owners manual. The fuel filter change interval on my 2012 is 20,000 miles.
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There was a software upgrade some months ago which extended the oil change interval to 20,000 miles to fall in line with the least models. It affected my 2013 Sprinter, don't which other years it applied to.
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08-20-2014, 05:49 PM
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2011 Interstate Coach
Overland Park
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What was upgraded by the software?
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08-20-2014, 05:54 PM
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2024 Interstate 19
Fulton
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first service
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08-20-2014, 05:56 PM
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2024 Interstate 19
Fulton
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I've heard that the new Sprinters have a 15,000 mile oil change interval, but this is first I've heard of 20,000.
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08-20-2014, 06:05 PM
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2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
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As I understand it, the oils in these MB diesel engines are supposed to go 15,000 miles before needing to be changed. Right?
Regardless of miles driven in between, we have had ours serviced about every 6 months over the past 7 years, spring and late fall, because we have roamed more than the average bear.
Doug always felt, given how much we went, that this was the responsible thing to do for such a valuable item. Good routine maintenance done by trusted mechanics. It's what we're told needs to be done so these will go several hundred thousand miles.
We always have the air and fuel filters checked each time, and frequently find they need replaced more often than is recommended.....I think the air filter is the one that likes to pick up sand and dust, when we have been in beloved sandy and less-loved-but-still-enjoyed dusty areas. Maybe it's the fuel filter. Someone out there will know.
The owners manual will have a maintenance schedule, which needs to be minimally followed for warranty purposes, doesn't it?
You should receive an invoice showing that each of those items have been done, then keep it.
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08-20-2014, 06:24 PM
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2014 Interstate Ext. Coach
Sedona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 73shark
What was upgraded by the software?
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Well it looks like I confused myself, so apologies on providing misinformation
Let me correct myself: after they upgraded the software on mine - and they didn't tell me at the time they had done it, by the way - I spotted that the "next service due in miles" information had gone up by 5000 miles.
So you're all correct and I was wrong - it's 15000 miles.
Age taking over, can't add up.
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08-20-2014, 08:41 PM
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2011 Interstate Coach
Overland Park
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I'll have to check w/ my dealer to see if that just applies to the newer models.
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08-20-2014, 11:07 PM
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Does anyone else think that 15K is too long of an interval for an oil change? I guess I'm just old school, but I've had my oil changed twice already and have just over 14K on my 2014 Ext.
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08-21-2014, 03:37 AM
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2012 Interstate Coach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwils25
Does anyone else think that 15K is too long of an interval for an oil change?
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Actually, no. There are basically two reasons why oil would need to be changed:
1 - Breakdown of the oil so that it loses its lubricating qualities;
2 - Contamination of the oil with metal particles, water, etc..
As long as your oil isn't overheated, it will not lose its lubricating qualities that quickly. If you do overheat the engine, then it's possible that the oil will start to break down and start leaving varnish deposits on the moving parts. If you know what to look for, you can detect varnish formation just by examining your dipstick before you wipe off the oil. So, if you ever overheat the engine, expect an oil change as part of the repairs, but otherwise don't worry about that.
As long as your oil is properly filtered, contamination is not an issue. The filter will trap the particulate contaminants. As it happens, your filter has a "bypass" setting; a clogged filter will allow unfiltered oil to pass around it because automotive engineers have decided that there will be less damage from contaminated oil than from a failure to lubricate. You can easily detect metal particles in your oil. All you need is two small flat pieces of glass. Place a drop of oil on one piece of glass, cover it with the other, and then rotate the pieces of glass in opposite directions while pressing them together. If you see curved scratches on the glass, you have particulate contamination and need to change the oil and filter.
If you get water contamination, though, you've got a more serious engine problem than just the contamination; there shouldn't be any way for water to get into the oil without damage to the engine such as a blown gasket. You can detect water in the oil as well, just by looking at the oil on the dipstick. The oil will be frothy and discolored.
So, a little bit of do-it-yourself oil analysis will tell you if you really need to change your oil. As long as the oil still looks like it should, and isn't contaminated, leave it in the engine, no matter how old it is. BUT, still change your filter on schedule.
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08-21-2014, 03:58 AM
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2007 Interstate
Normal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwils25
Does anyone else think that 15K is too long of an interval for an oil change? I guess I'm just old school, but I've had my oil changed twice already and have just over 14K on my 2014 Ext.
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You're thinking cars, not diesel engines, methinks.
It is a mental adjustment, oil changes for these engines.
No need in paying all that extra $$$ to your service folks.
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08-21-2014, 04:57 AM
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Oil changes may need to be done more often if the engine is started and stopped frequently as in driving around the city on short trips, which in moho's is rarely done. Short trips leads to buildup of junk in the crankcase due to incomplete warming up of the engine. The smaller units, e.g., sprinter chassis may be used like a car and if done so on a regular basis, may need shorter oil change intervals than specified in the factory manual.
My Moho had an 8.9 Cummins ISL, which required oil changes every 20,000 miles.... all 27 quarts.... LOL
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08-21-2014, 10:28 AM
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2011 Interstate Coach
Overland Park
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Oil in a diesel crankcase is hard to judge visually since it turns black (soot?) almost as soon as you put it in. Lab testing is the best way to determine if you're having a problem.
Water in the oil in a gas engine will also manifest itself as a gray, jelly-like substance on the underneath side of the filler cap. Not sure if this holds true for a diesel.
I'll use the change interval suggested by MB since the Mobil 1 ESP runs $7-$9 a quart and supposedly they know what they're doing. I would probably not go to 15K if all I did was short trips tho.
Here's a Mobil 1 video showing results on a taxi cab engine w/ 120K miles on it.
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08-21-2014, 10:45 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2013 Interstate Coach
Bradenton
, Florida
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If you're using synthetic oil you can go 10 to 15k miles if you're using regular oil it should be changed 3 to 5k miles... Most new cars are using synthetic oil now... My understanding is if you have used regular oil it is not a good idea to switch to synthetic... But I could be wrong about that...
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08-21-2014, 11:18 AM
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2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
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i think we're all synthetic oil, which is why the 15,000 mile change.
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