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Old 03-30-2016, 01:02 PM   #519
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In the oil chosen by Protagonist there is no ESP mark neither 229.51.

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Old 03-30-2016, 04:01 PM   #520
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Generally, I don't over-think this issue; husband said to use that formulation of turbo diesel Mobil 1 in the Interstate, so that's what we use.
I had the approved list up on my phone and went to a couple different auto parts stores but couldn't find any synthetics on the list. I assume that the marketing machines at these oil companies push the chemists to re-blend existing formulations and push them out faster than Mercedes can test them. Regardless of marketing, I trust Exxon and all their Mobile 1 branded oils.
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Old 03-30-2016, 06:18 PM   #521
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My manual states three oil specs: 228.51, 229.31, & 229.51

The only Mobil 1 listed is the ESP formula 5W40. It does list 24 other brands. My Sam's carries the Mobil 1 ESP in the correct weight.

I would be very careful about which oil you choose as the emissions system is sensitive to it. Just because it says "diesel" on it doesn't mean it's good for your engine. Just make sure it meets the specs listed in you manual.
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Old 03-30-2016, 11:40 PM   #522
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Mobil 1 ESP 5w40 is listed on Amazon. If it makes any difference at all, it's bound to be worth the price. And whatever Amazon is charging, it's a pretty good bet that it's cheaper than a Mercedes dealership.

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Old 03-31-2016, 01:31 AM   #523
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I would like to confirm with everyone that this is the one we are talking about.
Please see this screenshot from Amazon:
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Old 03-31-2016, 01:34 AM   #524
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Or, this synthetic from Walmart is basically the same?
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Hmmm.... Searching the net....

I've found that Mobil 1 ESP Formula M is discontinued in 2014 by replacing the new Mobil 1 ESP X1.

The same thing?
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This what I've also found:

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Sorry fo many posts in a row but I can't attach more than one picture in one post ...

The above description is for the oil which is below:
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I purchased 5w-30 Mobil 1 ESP from NAPA. They didn't carry it in the store but had it brought in from the warehouse within the day.
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I purchased 5w-30 Mobil 1 ESP from NAPA. They didn't carry it in the store but had it brought in from the warehouse within the day.
Did MB change the weight from 5W40 to 5W30 when the extended the mileage interval to 15,000 miles?
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This is viscosity, Marc, and it pays a role on the temperature climate but doesn't have anything common with service intervals that was extended only as a politic of business marketing, imho. My AI shows on the dashboard 20,000 ml to the next service - this is ridiculous, as I have been changing oil in all my vehicles during past 20 years - every 5 thousand with Mobil 1, and I'm planning to change every 10 thousand on this diesel.

Also, Mobil 1 changed ESP oil from 5w40 to 0w30, which is fine for Kansas.
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Also, Mobil 1 changed ESP oil from 5w40 to 0w30, which is fine for Kansas.
It's only fine for Kansas if MB says it's OK. I know they changed the req'd change interval recently but didn't know they lowered the viscosity also. MB didn't say why they extended the interval.
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Viscosity is dependable on temperature climate in which the car lives, thicker oil is for warmer climates, softer is for the cold.

PS. My opinion extension of intervals are connected only with a marketing of "less servicing vehicles".
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