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Old 12-27-2013, 02:29 PM   #29
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Well crap. Back to square one!
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Old 12-27-2013, 08:27 PM   #30
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Don't know about a stove but Amazon.com has a Camco Stainless Steel Grill that will work with your low pressure hose/quick connect. It is the Camco 57305 Olympian 5500 SS portable grill ($185.25). If you are interested in a smaller one, you could try the Camco 51845 SS Portable Grill that comes with a storage bag for $125.47. (with that one you would need an adaptor, Camco Model 58279 LPG conversion kit which is available from Defender Marine for $43.99 + shipping).
I have this Camco Olympian grill with an extension hose and storage bag.

Amazon.com: Camco 57305 Olympian 5500 Stainless Steel Portable Grill: Automotive

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Amazon.com: Camco 57632 Olympian Grill Storage Bag: Automotive

It works great for grilling and cooking outside.
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Old 12-27-2013, 08:39 PM   #31
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I have carried the bottles around for years, in my vans and tent trailer, with zero problems nor have I ever heard of a problem from others. Use common sense and I bet you will never have a problem either.
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Old 12-27-2013, 10:24 PM   #32
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but remember a post to boating forum of small green bottles leaking even when disconnected.
This is why it is illegal to transport the small bottles after they are refilled, the seals only hold up for so many times connecting them.

Also why it's actually a good thing they only last a few hours or uses.
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Old 01-01-2014, 01:11 PM   #33
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so a question from the one that does the cooking in our Interstate " have you ever used this to cook as you would on the stove inside , that is to say using pots and or pans?"
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Old 01-01-2014, 01:44 PM   #34
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The PO of my 25' 06 Safari had installed a tap off of the propane tanks that feeds a 10' hose to a Weber grill that he gave me with the trailer. Your dealer should be able to install a tap so you can buy the grill you want. I used it for the first time in November at a rally where we were cooking for the group.
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The PO of my 25' 06 Safari had installed a tap off of the propane tanks that feeds a 10' hose to a Weber grill that he gave me with the trailer. Your dealer should be able to install a tap so you can buy the grill you want. I used it for the first time in November at a rally where we were cooking for the group.
Can he install a tap from a built-in ASME tank on an Interstate? Without losing all of the propane you already have in the built-in tank? It's not quite the same setup as you guys with trailers and portable DOT tanks have. I ask because this IS the "Sprinter and B-van Forum" after all.
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Old 01-01-2014, 01:48 PM   #36
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The PO of my 25' 06 Safari had installed a tap off of the propane tanks that feeds a 10' hose to a Weber grill that he gave me with the trailer. Your dealer should be able to install a tap so you can buy the grill you want. I used it for the first time in November at a rally where we were cooking for the group.
Can he install a tap from a built-in ASME tank on an Interstate? Without losing all of the propane you already have in the built-in tank? It's not quite the same setup as you guys with trailers and portable DOT tanks have. I ask because this IS the "Sprinter and B-van Forum" after all.

You trailer owners often have good ideas that we Interstate owners can shamelessly steal for our own use. But I'm not entirely sure this is one of them.
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Old 01-01-2014, 01:53 PM   #37
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I'm worried that Airstream used soft copper in plumbing the onboard propane system. Soft copper and vibration don't work together well.
Soft copper has been used on RV propane systems for over 50 years with very few issues. The fact that it is "soft" means it is flexible and holds up exceptionally well. Occasionally you will get a cracked flare fitting causing a leak but other than that I have seen few problems. The only other system I have ever seen uses rigid black steel main supply pipe with copper running to the individual appliances. That steel pipe is more subject to vibration issues because it is rigid, and also it can rust. Airstream and everyone else uses soft copper for the gas lines because it works well.


On another topic on this thread, the propane in a small tank.

The little tanks hold about one pound of propane, 20,000 Btu total. There are about 4 pounds of propane in a gal. Depending on where and when you buy it propane costs about $2.50 to $3.00 per gal to refill a portable tank. So, if you buy a gal of propane it would take 4 little one pound tanks at a cost of $2.50 to $4 a tank, or $10 to $16 a gallon. Propane in little tanks is thus 4 to 6 times more expensive than bulk refill purchase.
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I guess there could be something specific to the Interstate but the tap off the tank is a standard component for propane systems. I have one of the Colman griddles with the little disposable green tanks and live it, but the Weber is bigger, has a folding stand and for bigger grilling its convenient to just hook into the existing tank.
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Old 01-01-2014, 04:44 PM   #39
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Can he install a tap from a built-in ASME tank on an Interstate? Without losing all of the propane you already have in the built-in tank? It's not quite the same setup as you guys with trailers and portable DOT tanks have. I ask because this IS the "Sprinter and B-van Forum" after all.

You trailer owners often have good ideas that we Interstate owners can shamelessly steal for our own use. But I'm not entirely sure this is one of them.
Can you post a picture of your tank and valve set up? I thought that the ASME tank on my motor home would be hard plumbed but it turns out that it uses a standard valve w/POL fitting. It is connected with a hose to a tee with one port going to a high pressure regulator that feeds the generator and the other port going to a low pressure regulator that supplies the rest of the coach appliances. I installed tee with a quick disconnect to provide tank pressure to grills, fire pits or whatever I have. I used this fitting F276181 Mr. Heater 1/4" Quick Connector. It has a valve that must be turned off before you can connect or disconnect the fitting. Propane Products has a great selection of propane hardware.

Again I haven't seen an Interstate set up but I saw a propane installation on a Pleasure Way built on a Sprinter chassis. The tank was under the coach behind the rear axle. Because it was basically inaccessible, it had an electric solenoid valve instead of a hand wheel valve. It still used POL fittings and regulators to connect to the coach.
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Soft copper has been used on RV propane systems for over 50 years with very few issues. The fact that it is "soft" means it is flexible and holds up exceptionally well. Occasionally you will get a cracked flare fitting causing a leak but other than that I have seen few problems. The only other system I have ever seen uses rigid black steel main supply pipe with copper running to the individual appliances. That steel pipe is more subject to vibration issues because it is rigid, and also it can rust. Airstream and everyone else uses soft copper for the gas lines because it works well.
Copper is soft 'til it "work hardens" from vibration, then it is prone to cracking which is the reason they used steel lines from the fuel pump to the carburetor before FI. I realize that engine vibration is probably more severe than what would be seen by copper attached to the frame. Just saying . . .
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Again I haven't seen an Interstate set up but I saw a propane installation on a Pleasure Way built on a Sprinter chassis. The tank was under the coach behind the rear axle. Because it was basically inaccessible, it had an electric solenoid valve instead of a hand wheel valve. It still used POL fittings and regulators to connect to the coach.
That inaccessibility is one reason why I tossed out the question to the group. I'm not exactly thin, and being an apartment dweller, I don't have anyplace safe to jack up the Interstate far enough to crawl under and look for myself. Interstates also use an electric solenoid valve same as the Pleasureway you cited, but I have no clue whether it uses standard POL fittings, or where the regulator is in relation to the solenoid valve.

If the regulator is downstream of the solenoid valve, then a tap between the solenoid and the regulator would allow the use of high-pressure hoses and standard portable grills. But if the existing regulator is upstream of the solenoid, a high-pressure tap between the tank and the existing regulator wouldn't be shut off by the solenoid.
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@Protag...you peaked my curiosity now. In my working life, we always placed shutoff valves upstream of regulators. It was done mainly to protect the regulators. Now I can't wait for the ran to stop, and find a flat space, and jack up the Interstate to find out the orientation Airstream uses. An upstream location could also explain the large solenoid used on the valve, and that last gasp of propane in the lines after the valve closes......bleeding down through the regulator.
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