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Old 10-11-2013, 11:46 AM   #15
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Just curious but who asked for shot records?
Shot records are for everything from if the park asks for it ( especially proof of rabies shot), as well as if you had to see a vet while traveling, you have your dogs medical records on vaccines. ( ie preventions for rule-outs of potential illness exposure).
Also- in some states, if a dog travels over state lines, they have to have a health certificate. Law enforcement also accepts your dogs 'shot record' instead of a 'health certificate.

Additionally- your dogs shot record will/should also have your dogs microchip on the records.
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I just don't feel comfortable leaving Sammy alone for long periods of time, even if I know she'll be safe and comfortable. Two hours is about my maximum comfort level, with less to nil if the weather is hot with no shade, or extremely cold. A lot of places are posted for not leaving dogs unattended in vehicles. A particular no-no is leaving a dog tied up alone outside a RV.

This is a big issue in US national parks, as dogs are not allowed on most trails.

One of my concerns is that it is so easy to get delayed, and I think if a dog is so inappropriate for what we plan to do on a trip, it's kinder if not safer just to leave her at home in a kennel. Would a dog be happy on a trip if it had to be cooped up alone for hours?

You will need your rabies certificates to cross the US border, although we've had to produce Sammy's maybe once. Also, consider what should happen if your pet needs sudden veterinary care while traveling. It's best to have at least your record of shots with you.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:24 PM   #17
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Power outage

We were traveling with our boxer and spent a couple of nights at Jackson Center at their terraport. It was July and over 100 degrees. At 4:30 pm they had a power outage that lasted for two hours. We were so glad we had not left Bandit in the trailer thinking the air conditioner would continue to run. So unless our trailer can be cool enough with the fantastic vents, we won't leave Bandit alone in the hot months.

The K9 cops have a way to keep their dogs cool in a vehicle with the ac when they are having donuts......can't remember what the device was but am sure an internet search will find it.

What bothers me are the self appointed dog police that object to a dog being left in a car even if the temperatures are low. I take Bandit with me to Curves at 7 am and I live near the beach that normally has a cloud cover. I leave him in the car for no more than 30 minutes (sun roof open) when the temperature is in the 60s then we go to the off leash park for his exercise. I have had people threaten to report me. Also, one evening we had dinner in Malibu and came out of the restaurant to meet the sheriff. The sun roof was open, the ambient air was under 70, the sun was setting and, yes, Bandit was barking but he was barking at the people who were hovering around the car. We are hyper sensitive about caring for our dog--especially since boxers are so heat sensitive. Bandit likes to travel with us and we are very careful to not put his life in danger.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:31 PM   #18
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Been doing this a long time......
They never run loose, are crated in the trailer if alone. Do not get left in anything that may overheat. Always travel in a folding "soft crate", never un-restrained while moving. In the X-pen or on lead when outside at the Campground.

BTW...we wouldn't camp without them.

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Old 10-11-2013, 03:28 PM   #19
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What bothers me are the self appointed dog police that object to a dog being left in a car even if the temperatures are low.
Thank you, our sentiments exactly.

We did a whirlwind tour of Mount Vernon a couple of summers ago, after having raced to get there in the morning and locating a very shady area under a tree where we could leave Lily safely.

Windows were open, vent fan was running, she had plenty of water, etc., etc.

We came out about 1 1/2 hours later to find a woman standing close to the Interstate, and Lily barking furiously. She said she belonged to "Lab rescue" and was concerned that our dog was left inside the vehicle in the heat.

We told her we had carefully selected the shade, it was not the heat of the day, it was warm but not excessively so inside, the dog had plenty of water, and all that.

We were clearly in the shade, the windows were obviously open and the vent fan was on. Nonetheless, she clucked her tongue at us and walked off.

About 5 minutes later, we had lunch set out at a nearby picnic table, Lily with us.......up comes a park ranger, telling us he had a report of a dog left alone in a vehicle. We explained, he saw, he left.

We were angry and rather insulted by this woman's behavior. People live in houses without air conditioning, and have pets. Common sense should prevail, this woman seemed to have none.

Some people seem to have no life, but to try and cause aggravation for others. I try to pity them.


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The K9 cops have a way to keep their dogs cool in a vehicle with the ac when they are having donuts......can't remember what the device was but am sure an internet search will find it.
This, maybe?
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:55 PM   #21
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Clarification

Failed to state in my original post that my initial question should have read if you folks had any complaints/suggestions while using your generators to assist the animals during the hot weather periods.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:30 AM   #23
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We were clearly in the shade, the windows were obviously open and the vent fan was on. Nonetheless, she clucked her tongue at us and walked off.
People like easy and simple rules to follow so they don't have to actually think. When I adopted my cat, I had to sign a thing saying I'd never leave him in a locked car. I remember thinking, "Even in cool weather?"

One thing not mentioned so far so I will: do keep your pet in a crate while on the road. We got into an accident with our B190 with Snowball (the cat) unrestrained. No damage to the cat, but we noticed - several minutes later - that the side window had shattered during the accident and at any time he could've jumped out onto the interstate. Fortunately he just wanted to sleep in his bed (actually, our bed).

In our B190, I ran the generator while traveling - the dash air in my B190 didn't work, so I'd use the generator to run the rooftop air even on the road. Then when I stopped it would already be running to help keep the camper cool. This never quite seemed to work as well as you'd hope; it had a tendency to shut down while I was on the road for various reasons. It was also a headache at gas stations - I always felt like I needed to shut it down and restart it after refilling (note the gen in the B190 was gasoline fueled, not propane). But once we had it running while stopped, it usually worked fine.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:19 AM   #24
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"One thing not mentioned so far so I will: do keep your pet in a crate while on the road. We got into an accident with our B190 with Snowball (the cat) unrestrained. No damage to the cat, but we noticed - several minutes later - that the side window had shattered during the accident and at any time he could've jumped out onto the interstate. Fortunately he just wanted to sleep in his bed (actually, our bed)."
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Before the AS, we had an accident on a cross-country trip.
Our OES was loose in the back of our Jimmy, not badly hurt, but tossed around pretty severely.
He was always a great traveller and anxious to go anywhere we went, jumped right in as soon as the door opened. After the incident he had to be lifted in, and got car sick on most trips. Not fun with a 100lb furry sheepdog.


We have crated ever since....

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"One thing not mentioned so far so I will: do keep your pet in a crate while on the road. We got into an accident with our B190 with Snowball (the cat) unrestrained. No damage to the cat, but we noticed - several minutes later - that the side window had shattered during the accident and at any time he could've jumped out onto the interstate. Fortunately he just wanted to sleep in his bed (actually, our bed)."
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Before the AS, we had an accident on a cross-country trip.
Our OES was loose in the back of our Jimmy, not badly hurt, but tossed around pretty severely.
He was always a great traveller and anxious to go anywhere we went, jumped right in as soon as the door opened. After the incident he had to be lifted in, and got car sick on most trips. Not fun with a 100lb furry sheepdog.

We have crated ever since....

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Sounds like a case of doggie PTSD.
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Love the use of soft crates. When not in use, flat as a pancake.
We should start a thread like post pictures of your dogs
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Love the use of soft crates. When not in use, flat as a pancake.
We should start a thread like post pictures of your dogs
Like a pet photo contest?.....

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I have been putting a lot of thought into doggie restraint lately. Our pups just hop in and ride on the seat, but I am worried about what would happen in an accident. I don't like the looks of the harnesses, I think they would be more comfortable in a crate. Do you think the soft crate would provide any protection in an accident? I was thinking about getting airline type kennels and fastening them down (we have a full size van so there's room).
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