Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-26-2019, 02:32 PM   #1
Contributing Member
 
Pahaska's Avatar
 
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County) , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,473
Images: 3
Built in mini-PC

I'm tired of schlepping my big laptop wherever I go in the AI. I bought a fanless mini-PC for about $150 to build into the AI replace the laptop.

The PC is about 6" x 6" x 2" with about as many ports as my laptop except for no printer port. It snaps into a frame that I will mount on the roof of the over-cab compartment, close to the front TV, which I have on a swivel arm so that it drops down to good viewing height. Several hours of running on my desk and it is barely warm to the touch.

The PC has a quad-core Atom processor and both dual-band wifi and bluetooth. It came pre-loaded with Windows 10 home. I tested it with my home monitor and wireless keyboard and it is faster than my bulky old laptop. It has 4 GB of DDR3L and 32 GB of eMMC memory. Display is through an included HDMI cable that I can switch into the monitor. All I need is a small wireless keyboard to carry in the AI.

I have an extra mount that I will put on my desk at home. To update or load new programs, I can bring the PC home and use my home wifi, keyboard, and monitor.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Mini PC.jpg
Views:	90
Size:	299.9 KB
ID:	332390  
__________________

__________________
John W. Irwin
2014.5 Touring Coach, "Sabre-Dog IV"
WBCCI #9632
Pahaska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2019, 03:25 PM   #2
4 Rivet Member
 
Tuco's Avatar
 
1988 32' Excella
Ojai , California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 273
Images: 1
Send that thing back while you still have hair and still can! The first time it updates on its own your going to be screwed (ask me how I know)!
__________________

__________________
Dave & MJ
1988 32' Excella 1000 (Beauty)
1999 White Dodge SLT Laramie 3500 Dually, 4x4, 5spd, 5.9 CTD 265k+ (The Beast)
Tuco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2019, 03:58 PM   #3
Contributing Member
 
Pahaska's Avatar
 
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County) , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,473
Images: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuco View Post
Send that thing back while you still have hair and still can! The first time it updates on its own your going to be screwed (ask me how I know)!
It already updated on its own and installed my Windows early adopter level of the OS. It went smooth as silk. It was as trouble free so far as any PC I have owned. I also installed a number of apps with no problems.

I do have automatic updates disabled so that it will not try to update when in the AI. Between trips, I can simply bring it home to my fast wifi to update.
__________________
John W. Irwin
2014.5 Touring Coach, "Sabre-Dog IV"
WBCCI #9632
Pahaska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2019, 04:33 PM   #4
4 Rivet Member
 
Tuco's Avatar
 
1988 32' Excella
Ojai , California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 273
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pahaska View Post
It already updated on its own and installed my Windows early adopter level of the OS. It went smooth as silk. It was as trouble free so far as any PC I have owned. I also installed a number of apps with no problems.

I do have automatic updates disabled so that it will not try to update when in the AI. Between trips, I can simply bring it home to my fast wifi to update.
32gb is just not enough overhead for Windows 10. I get your a power user, but make sure you stay on top of keeping that system just as tight/clean as possible. I only wanted that box to play movies and run Kodi. At this point it only has VLC player on it and is permanently disconnected from the internet. I wish you the best of luck with it, but I personally would never use it as a main PC. I'll keep an eye out for updates on this thread!

GL Dave
__________________
Dave & MJ
1988 32' Excella 1000 (Beauty)
1999 White Dodge SLT Laramie 3500 Dually, 4x4, 5spd, 5.9 CTD 265k+ (The Beast)
Tuco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2019, 05:10 PM   #5
Contributing Member
 
Pahaska's Avatar
 
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County) , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,473
Images: 3
It will never run more than a browser and a few games. It will get some more gigs via the TF card slot when I get around to it. Granted that those gigs are slower access, but my usual Lightroom, Photoshop, and Dreamweaver will never be running on this one.
__________________
John W. Irwin
2014.5 Touring Coach, "Sabre-Dog IV"
WBCCI #9632
Pahaska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2019, 07:54 PM   #6
4 Rivet Member
 
Tuco's Avatar
 
1988 32' Excella
Ojai , California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 273
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pahaska View Post
It will never run more than a browser and a few games. It will get some more gigs via the TF card slot when I get around to it. Granted that those gigs are slower access, but my usual Lightroom, Photoshop, and Dreamweaver will never be running on this one.
Some hopefully helpful info. It might help in the future. I have a similar problem with my main PC in that it has a 120GB SSD main drive. I moved the user data folder to a 1TB std drive (look up Sysprep). This will move the appdata directory and user data to that alt drive and free up space on C: Drive. What I have found over the last 3 years with this system is that Windows 10 has drive size creep. After installing all my apps I was at about 65gb on the main drive. After 3 years now it is up to 85gb and I have cleaned as much as I can using system tools. I cant imagine what that drive would look like if all the apps data was on C: drive. One last thing, the power supply is a little weak in these things and can get overloaded easily. Try not to use external drives that take power from the USB port.

Have fun!

Dave.
__________________
Dave & MJ
1988 32' Excella 1000 (Beauty)
1999 White Dodge SLT Laramie 3500 Dually, 4x4, 5spd, 5.9 CTD 265k+ (The Beast)
Tuco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2019, 08:55 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
2017 28' International
Baileys Harbor , Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 614
Blog Entries: 1
I have a Mac mini. I’ve had it from 2012. Still runs like new. 16gb, 1TB drive. If you can get a used one it would have way more applications for an AS. Put a parallels system in it and you can run PC programs. Apple products just keep on going going going going.

Also my IPAD has more power than that PC you hooked up. I use it to run movies, Netlflix, etc I take my MacBook along, but seldom pull it out unless I need to do work for my business.
Daquenzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2019, 09:51 PM   #8
Contributing Member
 
Pahaska's Avatar
 
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County) , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,473
Images: 3
As a 35-year IBM design engineer and programmer, an Apple product will never exist any where near me. I had a PC on my desk before the public knew they existed. There are 30 expired US patents out there.
__________________
John W. Irwin
2014.5 Touring Coach, "Sabre-Dog IV"
WBCCI #9632
Pahaska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2019, 10:25 PM   #9
Rivet Master
 
2017 28' International
Baileys Harbor , Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 614
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pahaska View Post
As a 35-year IBM design engineer and programmer, an Apple product will never exist any where near me. I had a PC on my desk before the public knew they existed. There are 30 expired US patents out there.
I have a computer programmer friend for a major company. He went to Apple and has never looked back. I have used PCís for years in my business. Every 2 to 3 years I had to get a new PC because it became like a dinasour. It just got slower and slower and slower. Not so with my Apple products. I have a friend with a PC. It barely opens. Takes forever. My Apple runs PC programs better than his PC.

Another friend of mine used to buy Laptop PCís and give names to each because every year or two she would have to buy a new one and bury the old one. She went to Apple about 6 years ago. Still runs like new.

Same is true for my wife. I bought her 3 PC laptops in a span of 6 years. They all got slower and slower and slower. I bought her a MacBook 5 years ago. Still runs like new.

Have you ever actually owned an Apple product?
Daquenzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2019, 10:51 PM   #10
4 Rivet Member
 
Tuco's Avatar
 
1988 32' Excella
Ojai , California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 273
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daquenzer View Post
I have a computer programmer friend for a major company. He went to Apple and has never looked back. I have used PC’s for years in my business. Every 2 to 3 years I had to get a new PC because it became like a dinasour. It just got slower and slower and slower. Not so with my Apple products. I have a friend with a PC. It barely opens. Takes forever. My Apple runs PC programs better than his PC.

Another friend of mine used to buy Laptop PC’s and give names to each because every year or two she would have to buy a new one and bury the old one. She went to Apple about 6 years ago. Still runs like new.

Same is true for my wife. I bought her 3 PC laptops in a span of 6 years. They all got slower and slower and slower. I bought her a MacBook 5 years ago. Still runs like new.

Have you ever actually owned an Apple product?
Keeping a PC running smoothly is an art form. I can understand why people have problems with it, but its not the OS its the user (PEBKAC). My systems run for 8 years and the only reason I upgrade is they can't run the latest games I want.

Yes, I have owned them. What is worse is supporting them. It's a lot easier to tune a PC than to support a mac.
__________________
Dave & MJ
1988 32' Excella 1000 (Beauty)
1999 White Dodge SLT Laramie 3500 Dually, 4x4, 5spd, 5.9 CTD 265k+ (The Beast)
Tuco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2019, 11:15 PM   #11
Wannabe RV'er in training
 
Alex AVI's Avatar

 
2018 Interstate Lounge Ext
High Desert , Las Vegas , Nevada
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,920
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pahaska View Post
As a 35-year IBM design engineer and programmer, an Apple product will never exist any where near me. I had a PC on my desk before the public knew they existed. There are 30 expired US patents out there.
JOHN - And as a 30-year Hewlett-Packard Hardware, Software, Field, R&D, Failure Analysis Hacker, & Debugger, engineer - I have to say I am with you 100%.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daquenzer View Post
Have you ever actually owned an Apple product?
DAQUENZER - Ummm - I have never owned any Apple computer. Why? Because I have dissected thousands of them in my R&D time in Silicon Valley. Part of my job was to look at the competition. I don't need to own or use one, I know how it's made. That's enough for me. No Apples for me. BTW - Apples are consumer grade products. The PC's you bought for your business, they are consumer grade PC's. The "real" PC's (the ones HP provides to their Hackers & Debuggers) will run circles over anything Apple sells. Those "real" PC's (surreal is better descriptor) are usually not sold in the Retail market.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuco View Post
Keeping a PC running smoothly is an art form. I can understand why people have problems with it, but its not the OS its the user (PEBKAC). My systems run for 8 years and the only reason I upgrade is they can't run the latest games I want.

Yes, I have owned them. What is worse is supporting them. It's a lot easier to tune a PC than to support a mac.
TUCO - Agree with you on all points. Supporting a MAC = PITA. Tuning a PC = Piece of Cake if you are trained for it, so you are right, it takes finese'ing to get it done right.
Alex AVI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2019, 02:52 AM   #12
Keen amature
 
martin300662's Avatar

 
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield , Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,596
I know it is fun to tinker and build your own, but why not just buy one of the compact media PC's?

I use a Lenovo Q190 (which is basically a laptop without a screen) not only in Bella (our MH) but also installed to each TV at home (they mount on a typical flat screen bracket), all part of the same home network, all connected to the central network server that has all our media (video, music, photos) and set-up a synchronization schedule to pull copies of the latest media to the local PC. Means whenever we go out in the motorhome we already have hard copies (no reliance on cloud access) of all our current TV shows, movies and music that plays through the standard PC.

Click image for larger version

Name:	2015-07-25 08.44.28.jpg
Views:	44
Size:	249.9 KB
ID:	332418
martin300662 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2019, 03:47 AM   #13
2 Rivet Member
 
2018 26' Flying Cloud
Falmouth , Virginia
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 31
This is almost as bad as the gas vs. diesel argument! Ok, maybe not.

I always say you pay for what you get. The $300 Windows laptop will seldom compete long term with a $1500 MacBook Pro. However, in that same ~6+ year lifespan you could have the latest hardware almost every year.

Please donít compare an iPad to anything but maybe a chromebook. Itís an expensive e-reader.

There is satisfaction with building your own system, and youíre able to leave all the vendor bloatware off which lends to a smoother running system.

PCís and Apple products alike are good solutions and nearly identical under the hood (these days). The days of the different architectures are gone... no more MC68000 microprocessors. The only difference now is the operating systems.

Both products, when matched with premium hardware, run very well and for a very long time. Change my mind.
LuckyCloud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2019, 05:49 AM   #14
3 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Fort Davis , Texas
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 202
If you are looking for a Mini PC I would look into the Intel NUC line. I have had one of their high end models for a few years and it has performed well. Used to be you had to build it yourself, but now there is a store where they do the build for you. Models range from basic to high end. URL is below:

https://simplynuc.com/

Pat


Edit: Forgot to mention that they also offer fanless models with a wrap around, external heat sink.
__________________

pdavitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Celestial Theme by Mini & MoonBeam COArgosy78 Interior Restoration Forum 7 09-04-2004 02:32 PM
(Almost ) Free Mini-Blinds Condoluminum Upholstery, Blinds, Walls & Interior Finishes 1 06-14-2004 12:04 AM
Mini unofficial non-rally memorial day weekend overlander63 Forum Rallies & Meet Ups 1 05-13-2004 11:08 PM
Looking for a mini trailer PtRichSue Our Community 7 08-14-2003 09:27 AM
Mini Rally in Nashville? Pick Our Community 4 12-21-2002 12:14 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.