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Old 05-19-2016, 07:09 PM   #29
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Based upon your photos of your AI with its grill mount, I have purchased the same grill & mounting system. If you attached the aluminum bar, did you use a backing plate?
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Old 05-19-2016, 07:11 PM   #30
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I found that the "white" mounting rail is actually exuded aluminum. I used a small propane torch to heat it up to remove the white paint with a wire brush. I then polished the aluminum on a buffing wheel and sprayed it with a coat of "clear Rustolium". It now matches my AS!!
Not sure if you are still active here, but someone just commented on your June 2015 post.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:52 PM   #31
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I did not use a backing plate. I drilled and tapped the ZipDee solid bar, and mounted the rail with 8-32 SS bolts. The lower cross bar was placed so the Grill bracket lined up.

Hope that makes sense......
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Old 05-20-2016, 01:31 AM   #32
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Thanks for the reply below. I looked up your other post, as your custom rack looks very useful, including as a "keeper" for your jerry can etc.. I will do some research on the Zip Dee site next, and may be back with some questions.

Running out of edit time, but a couple of quick questions -- To assemble the rack, I guess you tapped your own threads in the ends of the horizontal bar stock? Aluminum or SS bar stock? The bolts look like some kind of allen head machine bolt, or are these Zip Dee parts as well?

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I ordered the brackets directly from ZIP-DEE. The brackets are Part number "210060-BASE BRACKET", and the bars are "1ZZ:304-4' Satin Solid Bars". (I called ZIP-DEE at (847)437-0980, and they had them on the way the next morning. ) Mounting was with Stainless Steel screws from Ace Hardware, with Sikaflex sealant. The ZIP-DEE satin solid bars need to be ordered by length, I believe I was charged about $4.92 per foot, and you will need to cut and drill to your needs.

If you have additional questions, please contact me directly, rather than using this thread, as I did not intend to hijack this thread when I commented regarding my wish for a larger rear awning than that offered by Airstream.

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I did not use a backing plate. I drilled and tapped the ZipDee solid bar, and mounted the rail with 8-32 SS bolts. The lower cross bar was placed so the Grill bracket lined up.

Hope that makes sense......
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Old 05-20-2016, 07:06 AM   #33
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We opted to get the Weber Q-Grill (gas). It utilizes the small gas cylinders. We wanted the option of having the grill detached from the coach and not using the on-board propane. Having the flexibility to use the grill on a picnic table or small grill table away from the coach was a consideration. I was not comfortable having the grill mounted to the side of the vehicle. Heat and normal grill flare-ups could potentially damage the vehicle paint was my thought. Mount brackets screwed into the side of the vehicle could also be a source of rust in the long run.
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+1 on using a grill some distance away from the Interstate, although my reasonings are a little different than yours.

A grill mounted on the side of the vehicle or the swing hitch is going to generate some degree of smoke even if it is run on propane instead of wood or charcoal. That means the vehicle is going to have to be buttoned up tight for the duration of cooking or the smell will permeate the interior. Well, that's not very practical as I tend to run in and out like a cat obsessed with a screen door. Even if most of the meal is cooked on the grill, I'm warming up beans on the interior stove (can't have Texas BBQ without beans), I'm fetching dishes, drinks, setting the picnic table, etc. We prefer to grill about 20 feet away from the vehicle so that we don't have to worry about the smoke.

Additionally, I do prefer to use charcoal and wood, either mesquite or pecan. Lots of smoke during the fire-up stage. Lots of smell, which is a wonderful smell but I don't want to be still wearing it the next day. I have a gas Weber Q at home - I don't want the same thing on the road. For me the point of being out there is to slow down and enjoy the more leisurely approach and use the grilling method that takes more time.

Grill storage space is an issue, especially if charcoal and wood are included. For this reason, and because we haven't yet decided what would be best to buy, to date we have used grills available at the campgrounds. Some people are grossed out by that because they perceive a dirtiness factor. At Galveston Island State Park, we laughed and laughed because of course the seagulls had pooped all over our campsite's grill - who would expect anything less? Well, we scrub off and lower the grate into the hot coals so it gets well-sterilized before food is placed on it, so that's not a concern. What IS a concern is the commonly-encountered decrepit condition of public grills, which results in lack of adjust-ability, rendering them almost useless. Attached is a pic from Brazos Bend State Park, showing all the side tabs rusted off. Very frustrating that this kind of thing characterizes one of Texas' flagship venues. When this happens, we have to start propping up the grate with rocks and sticks, which is a huge hassle. It doesn't work right and often results in improperly cooked BBQ.

For that reason we are looking at carrying a small, simple tabletop unit, probably mounted and stored under the chassis because even if it is cleaned after use, it's still going to have some smell to it. The mounting part is on my to-do list.
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Old 05-20-2016, 07:29 AM   #34
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For that reason we are looking at carrying a small, simple tabletop unit, probably mounted and stored under the chassis because even if it is cleaned after use, it's still going to have some smell to it. The mounting part is on my to-do list.
Easy-Off oven cleaner is good for cleaning grills and will kill lingering cooking odors as well. (except for cleaning the cooking surface itself, of courseó for that you want a citrus-based grill cleaner).
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Thanks for the reply below. I looked up your other post, as your custom rack looks very useful, including as a "keeper" for your jerry can etc.. I will do some research on the Zip Dee site next, and may be back with some questions.

Running out of edit time, but a couple of quick questions -- To assemble the rack, I guess you tapped your own threads in the ends of the horizontal bar stock? Aluminum or SS bar stock? The bolts look like some kind of allen head machine bolt, or are these Zip Dee parts as well?

Thanks,

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Peter,

All the square parts are ZipDee satin finish aluminum bar stock. Yes, I tapped the bar stock. Bolts are 3/8-16 SS Grade 8 Socket head cap bolts with SS star washers from Ace Hardware.
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Thanks for the reply below. I looked up your other post, as your custom rack looks very useful, including as a "keeper" for your jerry can etc.. I will do some research on the Zip Dee site next, and may be back with some questions.

Running out of edit time, but a couple of quick questions -- To assemble the rack, I guess you tapped your own threads in the ends of the horizontal bar stock? Aluminum or SS bar stock? The bolts look like some kind of allen head machine bolt, or are these Zip Dee parts as well?

Thanks,

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Peter,

Yes the custom ZipDee rack is quite useful. So far I have made the following clip-on attachments for the rack. 1) Original RVQ bracket for the grill. 2) Bike Rack. 3) Shelf/Table for the two burner Everest cook Stove. 4) Mounting Bracket for the Backup-Rearview Camera.
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Peter,

Yes the custom ZipDee rack is quite useful. So far I have made the following clip-on attachments for the rack. 1) Original RVQ bracket for the grill. 2) Bike Rack. 3) Shelf/Table for the two burner Everest cook Stove. 4) Mounting Bracket for the Backup-Rearview Camera.
Thanks -- if you could give some feedback on the assembly process, including machining questions per my earlier post, that would be great. For instance, are the horizontal pieces the same stock that slides in and out on the Zip Dee awnings, and is it hollow? How do your bolts through the verticals attach to the horizontals?

Etc.

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Thanks -- if you could give some feedback on the assembly process, including machining questions per my earlier post, that would be great. For instance, are the horizontal pieces the same stock that slides in and out on the Zip Dee awnings, and is it hollow? How do your bolts through the verticals attach to the horizontals?

Etc.

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Peter. The ZipDee bars are solid and are the same material as used on the arms of the ZipDee awning.

The vertical ZipDee bars are 3/8" drilled on center.

The horizontal bars are drilled and tapped to 3/8-16 thread. Drilling/Tapping the horizontal bars are the only tricky part of putting this together. The hole to be drilled in the horizontal bars needs to be perfectly centered. I used my woodturning lathe! I chucked the aluminum bar in the head, and put the proper tap drill in the tail stock to make sure it was centered.

I cut all the aluminum with a carbide blade on a table saw. But you could just as well cut it with a hacksaw. The cuts need to result in a perfect 90 degree cut however.

I totally guessed as to how wide to space the verticals. The vertically were originally made too long on purpose, then after mounting, I marked and cut them to the length you see in the photos.

Hopefully that answers your questions. Let me know if you have additional questions.

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That covers it thanks!
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Old 05-21-2016, 04:53 PM   #40
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Low pressure LP port usage.

I just recently purchased a '16 Flying cloud 28 and want use the exterior LP outlet.

Basically all LP grills need a regulator to go from tank pressure to a lower controlled pressure. Here's the nugget most if not all grills won't work with two regulators in play. Disconnecting the one on the grill is the best option. I found this YouTube on converting the Weber Q 1200.

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