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Old 12-18-2018, 05:02 PM   #1
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Question Awning deploying by itself

Friend calls me that the AI has the awning partially extended... We keep the AI in their backyard...So this past weekend I went to get it, taking it for a nice long drive... a wash...thinking it was a random thing... and drove it back...


Today I get these two photos from our friends...


I keep with the red switch in the on position... first time (well, second) it has done this. Has anyone experience this with their AI? So I do not go blind into the troubleshooting?
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Old 12-18-2018, 05:41 PM   #2
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Friend calls me that the AI has the awning partially extended... We keep the AI in their backyard...So this past weekend I went to get it, taking it for a nice long drive... a wash...thinking it was a random thing... and drove it back...


Today I get these two photos from our friends...


I keep with the red switch in the on position... first time (well, second) it has done this. Has anyone experience this with their AI? So I do not go blind into the troubleshooting?
WACHUKO - Check your Owner's Manual. You did not know TB Models come with NIWADs (Nice Weather Auto Deploy System)

I would bet it happened right after or during rain event? Remove this ultra-high-tech AS cable waterproofing device - red arrows (electrical tape) Don't ask how I know, don't ask how dealer fixed it after I complained, don't ask how I fixed it myself. OK, will tell you even though you know the process, heatshrink (double layer it) with end-collars & seal heatshrink onto end-collars for extra protection.
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Old 12-18-2018, 06:25 PM   #3
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Somewhere on the forums is a discussion that leads to the install of a POSITIVE acting on/off switch to totally cut off power to the awning electricals. This assures that a retracted awning stays retracted unless something physically or mechanically breaks. I'd suggest adding a cut-off switch to prevent this silliness.

That said, I'm super glad I don't have one of those "convenient" power-operated awnings on my rig...mine stay locked shut until I physically grab hold and open them. Electric awnings are on my "avoid at all costs" list...

We won't get into comments on that wonderful cable install and (NOT!) waterproofing job, either...as we say down South about folks that do stuff like that, "Bless their hearts..."
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Be glad the awning did not auto-deploy in the middle of a narrow tunnel!

You oughto add a manual on/off Rich-switch.

No separate 12v breaker for the awning?
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In the meantime to installing a switch, you've probably already thought of pulling the fuse that controls the awning. In ours it's the #10 under the drivers seat.
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Be glad the awning did not auto-deploy in the middle of a narrow tunnel!

You oughto add a manual on/off Rich-switch.

No separate 12v breaker for the awning?
OTRA15 - On my 2018 awning gets power from MB Terminal Block 2, Fused by F10/20A under driver's seat. However, Awning Extend Enable Relay is at Terminal 1, Fused by F12/10A. And 2nd however, the awning control lines (extend/retract) come from Firefly integrated controls which are powered via house batts
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Thanks for the clarification.
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Thank you all!!!!! Will pull fuse for now while I get the time to do the proper “Alex-Fix”

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Fuse removed!! Will tackle the fix over the weekend. Thank you all again!!
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You might also want to go to the GoWesty.com website shop, & get 2-4 of their 12" L Velcro Awning straps to keep it from popping out or deploying due to aeordynamics if not closed tight & airflow can get into the joint to push it out (also helps keep awning closed tight & waterproof in storms).


https://www.gowesty.com/product/awni...attle-strap?v=



We've used them on our non-power Fiamma F45 awing on our classic 1988 VW Westfalia camper, but apparently someone in the neighborhood also likes them & keeps stealing them. So get a few extra to keep in your camper van.


IIRC they used a Fiamma F45 on some or all of their Sprinter based Airstream camper vans.



Also, do put in the on-off switch mentioned above & keep it in off - or pull the fuse as you did - so you won't have a dead battery from the awning motor struggling to open the awning by whatever fluke or poor design is causing this.


I'm really surprised that Airstream can get away with this if it can deploy on the road, & surprised that they won't fix them properly.



Some of you affected owners should consider reporting this to NHTSA for a safety recall to force Airstream to fix this problem.


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Friend calls me that the AI has the awning partially extended... We keep the AI in their backyard...So this past weekend I went to get it, taking it for a nice long drive... a wash...thinking it was a random thing... and drove it back...


Today I get these two photos from our friends...


I keep with the red switch in the on position... first time (well, second) it has done this. Has anyone experience this with their AI? So I do not go blind into the troubleshooting?
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Be glad the awning did not auto-deploy in the middle of a narrow tunnel!
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I saw one that had auto-deployed on IH-20 in the middle of Mississippi a few years back. Needless to say, it was not a pretty sight.

At that time, spontaneous deployment was rumored to be A Thing, but was not well-confirmed by evidence, which it later became, to the point where nobody doubts it any longer. I added my witnessing to the growing pile of reports.
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Ours auto-deployed at 65mph on a two lane highway in the middle of (nowhere) Oregon back in July.

Prior to this, we had been struggling to get the awning fully closed and latched. We also were hearing the gears skipping at full extent and at fully closed. I even watched it auto-deploy in the driveway just as if someone were pressing the switch !! So yes, pull the fuse.

Not understanding how these things worked, we could not wait for weeks to get service so we headed for Maine... and then it happened. I found out these awnings are under high tension wanting to be deployed. The latches hold it in. The motor and gears are perhaps not designed to hold things back if the latches are not fully engaged. More than one person has reported a RAPID release in the driveway. So yes, use a strap.

I don't know if ours slowly deployed like I had seen with my own eyes once before, or if it rapid deployed like I've read about. I suspect rapid deployment because without warning I felt what I can only describe as a 100mph side gust of wind as the awning flipped up and became a sail. I barely held control and may have crossed the center line a little. Could have been a death event.

Insurance paid for a replacement, so we have a new Fiamma awning (sigh) but I never travel without a strap. Here's another source for velcro cinch straps. Lots of different lengths, colors, multi-pack pricing, etc.
https://www.computercablestore.com/s...q=velcro+cinch
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Somewhere on the forums is a discussion that leads to the install of a POSITIVE acting on/off switch to totally cut off power to the awning electricals. This assures that a retracted awning stays retracted unless something physically or mechanically breaks. I'd suggest adding a cut-off switch to prevent this silliness.

That said, I'm super glad I don't have one of those "convenient" power-operated awnings on my rig...mine stay locked shut until I physically grab hold and open them. Electric awnings are on my "avoid at all costs" list...

We won't get into comments on that wonderful cable install and (NOT!) waterproofing job, either...as we say down South about folks that do stuff like that, "Bless their hearts..."
On the 2017 Classics and others I presume, with the power awnings, the power shuts off automatically when the trailer is in motion.
I wonder why this feature is missing of the Interstates.
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