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Old 06-06-2018, 06:11 AM   #29
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A different anecdotal reference - self-reported Sprinter-based RV ownership participation on Sprinter Forum. It supports other references in suggesting that the sales field is wide open. A company with a superior Sprinter-based product could really revolutionize the entire landscape if they wanted to (and had the insight and instinct that market domination would demand).

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Agree, healthy competition is great for the consumers. Brand loyalty is one thing but not the ONLY thing!
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:21 AM   #31
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This article will no doubt be posted elsewhere on Air Forums, but here it is for the B van subforum: Airstream's take on its growth, market share, and future.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90265781...e-of-airstream
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:21 AM   #32
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This article will no doubt be posted elsewhere on Air Forums, but here it is for the B van subforum: Airstream's take on its growth, market share, and future.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90265781...e-of-airstream
Well written article, thanks for sharing.
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Old 11-15-2018, 11:09 AM   #33
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I've spoken to several winnebago sprinter owners at campgrounds. I always approach them when I see them and ask how they like it. Most have had problems, including leaks. Most have problems with dealer service and I was told that to go to Winnebago directly for service is a greater than 1 year wait list. One owner was a previous Airstream owner and they said they regret not staying with Airstream. I am meeting a friend this weekend to look at Leisure vans. Should be interesting.
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I've spoken to several winnebago sprinter owners at campgrounds. I always approach them when I see them and ask how they like it. Most have had problems, including leaks. Most have problems with dealer service and I was told that to go to Winnebago directly for service is a greater than 1 year wait list. One owner was a previous Airstream owner and they said they regret not staying with Airstream. I am meeting a friend this weekend to look at Leisure vans. Should be interesting.
MANSDERM161 - this is why I am counting my blessings that I can do some maintenance and upgrade mods myself. Even if under warranty or willing to pay them to do the work, the long wait is frustrating. Also, having resources in this forum has & will continue to be a big help to me/us in getting things fixed when dealer network can't squeeze as in right away. Without help from this forum, I would be lost.
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Me Too! I love the forum
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Old 11-20-2018, 09:30 AM   #36
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If a buyer wanted a micro-campervan, this would not be a bad choice. What is shown here is basically what I did years ago (pre-Interstate) to my long-suffering Sienna, except these guys made a design that is far more elegant and optimized. Mine was closer to the end-member condition of "crap scattered randomly all over the minivan". Except I did carry a small portable marine toilet in mine; this appears to have none (good luck with that in treeless undeveloped places such as west Texas).

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Tag line of this thread: "the herd is advancing".

Reality right now: "the entire herd is in the toilet".

This article below might be paywalled for most users (I'm a WSJ subscriber). It's the first piece I've seen that reports on how poorly RV manufacturers are doing.

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"In the past year Thor has lost about two-thirds of its value and Winnebago some 57%. Leading RV retailer Camping World Holdings has done even worse, losing three-quarters of its value....

...according to Thor, the company’s shipments are down significantly. Its most recent results for its fiscal first quarter showed a 21.3% drop in revenue and an 83.2% drop in pretax profit..."

(Edit: Camping World is the retailer that decided to go culture warring about 16 months, with its CEO telling people of certain political affiliations not to shop at their stores. The relative numbers suggest those people may have taken heed.)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/rv-stoc...ss-11546351380
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(Edit: Camping World is the retailer that decided to go culture warring about 16 months, with its CEO telling people of certain political affiliations not to shop at their stores. The relative numbers suggest those people may have taken heed.)
INTERBLOG - I have never looked at businesses through any political lense. Some people say I should. Maybe, but I just like to go to businesses that provide what I want and that want to provide it to me. But who am I to second guess a very intelligent CEO's marketing and business acumen. So if said CEO says "do not shop at my stores" I figure he knows what he speaks of. So I will gladly oblige and give my $ to a different business that wants my $
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Maybe, but it takes backbone to put your mouth where your money is, like the owner of CW has done. Bully for him. I wonder is they have a branch that sells Airstreams, I will look into it.

If sales are down across the whole board of RV manufacturers it is because the RV industry is a leading indicator, not because the owner has suggested some possible customers go elsewhere.

It will be interesting to see which RV companies and dealerships make it through a significant economic downturn.
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Camping World took over Safford RV in Virginia and initially really upped the stock of Airstreams on the lot. Now they have physically moved the Airstreams to a seperate lot in Ashland, Airstream of Virginia. Service gets no rave reviews. Yet another dealer enhancing COLONIAL's REPUTATION.

For myself, I am aging out in a year or six, so the old EB will do just fine with some regular maintenance. And all the great innovations like Alde and touch screen everything..bleah... mo' shop time, less pleasure.

Now IF I win a lottery and have stupid money all bets are off, but reality bites.
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INTERBLOG - I have never looked at businesses through any political lense. ...
Neither did most other people until quite recently. But numerous corporations and a few professional athletes have decided that their primary duty is not to be rendered in the service of their stock (stock = literal or figurative), but rather they'd prefer to deliver their pet precious ideology in lieu of that for which they were actually hired.

I won't get mixed up in it unless a retailer initiates the nonsense. Then it's time to vote with my wallet. In most cases, my objection is not to the politics per se, but rather to the fact that the entity is being led by someone so incorrigibly stupid and egotistical as to launch the "holier than thou" campaign. I'll go elsewhere, thanks.
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a few professional athletes have decided that their primary duty is not to be rendered in the service of their stock (stock = literal or figurative), but rather they'd prefer to deliver their pet precious ideology in lieu of that for which they were actually hired.

Kind of like telling LeBron to shut up and just play basketball?
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