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Old 08-09-2003, 06:50 AM   #1
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Any other B Van owners out there that I can exchange info with? I've owned mine since 1997 and have put over 120,000 miles on it. I know a lot, but I need to know more! Right now I have Onan generator problems that I'd like some help on! Thanks!
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Old 08-09-2003, 12:04 PM   #2
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http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Airstream190/

What kind of problems are you having with the genset? There is a discussion group monitored by Onan but I has misplaced the link.
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Old 08-09-2003, 02:43 PM   #3
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I am convinced that the rotor gives out because the air conditioner draws too much power........at any rate, I have gone through 2 generators and haven't had more than a few hundred hours on each. Now I'm faced with the dilemma of whether or not to buy another Onan or something else. Any suggestions?
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If you plan to run the genset while on the road or you need the convenience of a built in genset with an inside remote start your options are rather limited.

Otherwise you might check to see how a couple of Honda 2000's would fit. These are a lot lighter and would provide plenty of juice for the AC when hooked parallel. But they would be more cumbersome and these particular gensets use a pullstart.
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Old 08-10-2003, 06:21 AM   #5
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Hmmmmm. generators in tandem......never thought of that! Makes sense though! But you're right, it would be cumbersome. Right now I am in correspondence with Airstream and Onan over this problem. They have suggested using a 4000 generator instead of the 2800, but of course it would require adjustments to the space it fits in........I don't think I want to be a guinea pig on that venture.
Cheapest genset I've found is thru Colorado Standby for $1767 delivered. I'm still pondering the merits of Onan though........
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only a few of the newer inverter based gensets allow parallel operation. Honda and Yamaha are the most popular of these from what I can tell.

They are extremely quiet because they don't depend upon engine speed for output voltage or frequency. The 2 kw version with pull start is only about 50 lb while the 3kw version with electric start is about 150 lb. These are stand alone types not designed to be run as a permanent mount in an RV though. I haven't researched non-Onan smaller in-RV gensets (yet)

The inverter design has a drawback in that the initial surge capability is limited which might make starting an AC problematic. 3 kw is marginal (especially at altitude) but 2 - 2kw seem to do OK.
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Thumbs down forgit the Yahoo B190 site !

Typical of Yahoo they want way too much information to join anything they host....its really just a way to gather info and pass it on to their "partners" which we all know results in a ton of crappolla e-mail.... they even want your Credit Card Number n' exp.date...they gotta lot of balls

And the B190 site doesn't have much participation..

Anyone know of any other 190 sites.... ?

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Old 09-17-2003, 05:44 PM   #8
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they even want your Credit Card Number n' exp.date
I belong to several Yahoo forums (B190 is one) and never have been asked for any info close to that. I grant there isn't a lot of participation, but that is probably due more to the number produced than anything.

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Yahoo B190 site....

Ya, John go check it out as a new user. They say its to verify you are over 18 which is of coarse BS... no body in their right mine would give 'em all that info to be a member...

Now I see why its reported that 68 percent of ALL Spam crappolla e-mail originates through Yahoo...
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Old 01-21-2006, 09:29 PM   #10
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Any other B Van owners out there that I can exchange info with? I've owned mine since 1997 and have put over 120,000 miles on it. I know a lot, but I need to know more! Right now I have Onan generator problems that I'd like some help on! Thanks!
Just joined. Do you still have your b-190. I bought a '94 in 2004 and love it. Had some gen probs but finally got them fixed.
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Old 01-21-2006, 10:06 PM   #11
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That microlite 2800 should be plenty to handle the A/C in the B-Van. But they do need proper exercise on a regular schedule. Mine need carb work. Not enough hours and its rather gummed up.
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My microlite 2800 died last summer, but I don't think it was well maintained over the years. Until it died, it didn't seem to have any problem handling the A/C...
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We have a 1997 B-Van we picked up last fall. I remember reading on this forum about having to remove the Onan 2.8 Microlite Generator to change the oil. I wasn't going to do that, and I wasn't going to drill a hole throught compartment under the genset,'
Just completed my oil change with this trick. It worked perfectly.
1. Go to Safeway (any store) and bought a turkey baster.
2. Went to Napa and got 8 inches of rubber tubing.
3. Tipped B-Van by driving right side (passenger) on the street curb.
4. Stuck rubber tubing onto turket baster and stuck the tube into the oil fill
and sucked all the oil out. Worked Great!!!!
5. Added new quart of oil and presto. Ran genset, checked level. Done!!
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Look at Generac. They make a lot of RV gensets that are less money than Onan and run better. In fact, Onan copied the current Generac v-twin bottom belt drive design on their new models.
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at any rate, I have gone through 2 generators and haven't had more than a few hundred hours on each. Now I'm faced with the dilemma of whether or not to buy another Onan or something else. Any suggestions?
I do not have a B-Van but do admire them. Also I do have a Onan Gen-Set which is a 1982 with hundreds of hours on the meter. Most of the hours are what I call exercising. A gen-set regardless of brand needs to be run. New models even have an automatic timer which allows the owner to set and exercise the gen set at regular intervals. I was doing work in Chummy today and ran the gen-set just to operate the drill and a trouble light but it also got its exercise.
I would recomend a complete tune-up with valve adjustment, then a regular routine of running the genset. This way it will last your lifetime.
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Old 04-11-2006, 08:33 PM   #16
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This B-Van we bought last August had a non-working generator. However in the ad, Total Sales Solutions of Jackson Mississippi advertized everything on the coach worked, including being able to run the A/C w/Genset while driving.
When we got down there to this Ebay outfit, we later found out there was much more wrong with this B Van. We will leave it this way, It photographed beautifully. Next time, we will look make a visual inspection where possible before we buy. Found a new Onan 2.8 gas for several hundred $$$ less than "presidents club" Camping World price. Snapped it up and put it in. All works well. Found diesel powered rv genset that Sportmobile uses, but none were as small as the Microlite Onan 2.8. We had just enough room in the compartment for the onan.
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B 190 Wiring schematic

I am installing a 0nan Genset in a 1994 B190 but don't have a schematic of the 190 Does any one out there know where I can get one or know where to connect the ac wires from the genset. There are four wires in the generator compartment but have no idea where they go. Any help would be appreciated.
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Lew is right, Generac makes a great RV lineup of generators. I'm very happy with mine. The 40G is quiet enough, has stablalized power output, and is self contained. The most important part is the electronically stabalized output. I had it mounted on the rear deck of my old Champion bookmobile for two years and have run it in the belly of Airstream 1 for another year. I figure I've got 6000+ hours on it. I change the oil every two weeks or 200 hours using Mobile One synth. I'm going to change the fuel and air filters today.... before heading back to work with it on Monday. It runs 8-12 hours a day when I'm on the road. The most you should pay for this genset is $1600. delivered!!
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There is a 190 that has been for sell in my town for more then 90 days, not sure if the owner is ready to deal or not but if you know someone near mountain city GA that is looking have them PM me for info. Thanks
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Old 09-23-2006, 04:27 PM   #20
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We have a 1997 B-Van we picked up last fall. I remember reading on this forum about having to remove the Onan 2.8 Microlite Generator to change the oil. I wasn't going to do that, and I wasn't going to drill a hole throught compartment under the genset,'
Just completed my oil change with this trick. It worked perfectly.
1. Go to Safeway (any store) and bought a turkey baster.
2. Went to Napa and got 8 inches of rubber tubing.
3. Tipped B-Van by driving right side (passenger) on the street curb.
4. Stuck rubber tubing onto turket baster and stuck the tube into the oil fill
and sucked all the oil out. Worked Great!!!!
5. Added new quart of oil and presto. Ran genset, checked level. Done!!
Your way is cheaper than mine.

I got something called a Topsider. It is an oil recovery can with a hand pump to put a vacuum in the can. (Boaters use them mostly, and I got mine at West Marine.) There is a long tube that you can place in the oil fill hole of the engine and suck out the oil. It works well. I use mine on the lawn mowers as well. When it is full, you can use it to take the oil to the recycler.

One word of caution. When you pump up the thing, don't put your foot on the can. With the vacuum in the can and the pressure of your foot, you might end up like that science demo in third grade with a can, bunsen burner, and the top. Cool in school, a real bummer in other places. .

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