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Old 12-11-2016, 03:05 PM   #1
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AI towing TT required to reserve two sites?

Hi all,

I've been told by an RV park that I would have to pay for two sites since I'm towing an RV with an RV. Only one RV allowed per site, so although I only use the AI as a motor coach, rules are rules. Anybody have similar experience? I'm new at all this so I'm wondering if this is the norm? I'm thinking that I should have told them a mercedes sprinter as the TV instead of an Airstream AI but I figure they would have given me a hard time at arrival.

What is everyone's experience with this?
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About the longest pull thru sites I'm aware of are 70'. Texas and a number of other states limit RVs to 65'. States which allow double tow usually restrict that to a 5er and one other (think fishing boat, ATV trailer) with length limit unaffected.

The person at the RV park may have had in mind a picture of a pair of RVs traveling together. Not unknown for some families.

I know the total length of my trailer hitch ball to rear bumper, and I know the length of the combined rig. This helps in those situations. As do pictures (some parks restrict on age due to the SOB proclivity to falling apart). Our trailer type lasts indefinitely, and pics are an assurance.

These pieces of information work.
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I've never heard of that or read of it here...likely an individual park thing, trying to get more $.

Would you have to leave the Intertaste in another site, with no one in it? Seems a bit ridiculous to me.

I don't think I would announce this when making a reservation, if your AI is your tow vehicle.


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About the longest pull thru sites I'm aware of are 70'. Texas and a number of other states limit RVs to 65'. States which allow double tow usually restrict that to a 5er and one other (think fishing boat, ATV trailer) with length limit unaffected.

The person at the RV park may have had in mind a picture of a pair of RVs traveling together. Not unknown for some families.

I know the total length of my trailer hitch ball to rear bumper, and I know the length of the combined rig. This helps in those situations. As do pictures (some parks restrict on age due to the SOB proclivity to falling apart). Our trailer type lasts indefinitely, and pics are an assurance.

These pieces of information work.
It's not a matter of length but rather that both the tow vehicle and the trailer are RV's.
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Old 12-11-2016, 04:03 PM   #5
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I've never heard of that or read of it here...likely an individual park thing, trying to get more $.

Would you have to leave the Intertaste in another site, with no one in it? Seems a bit ridiculous to me.

I don't think I would announce this when making a reservation, if your AI is your tow vehicle.


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Exactly what I responded. Waiting to hear back. I'm glad to hear this is not normal and I will definitely not volunteer the fact that my tow vehicle is an Airstream on any future reservations.
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Thems the rules some places. We got away with it when we said only one would be hooked up to services..
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All you need to tell them is that you need space for a travel trailer that is XX feet long and that you will need to park a tow vehicle which is XX feet long. If they want to know what kind of TV, it's a Mercedes van.
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I see conversion vans towing trailers all the time, and they are in the same Site as their rig.

I think you just got hold of someone who wanted to be difficult.

It's possible this is a workcamper, so if you're determined to have this particular campground might ask to talk with the owners, boss, etc.

Sometimes, you have owners that are just plain difficult...if that's the case, I would take my money elsewhere.


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I always told people that asked that it was a conversion van which usually elicits in most folks mind pictures of a Chevy van w/velour captain's chairs and shag carpet.
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It may be because the campground thinks you will use full hookups for both your AI and Trailer. If that sibylline intention, paying for 2 sites makes sense. If that isn't your intention, the campground should consider one vehicle the tow vehicle and one the trailer. What if I towed my trailer with a VW Vanagon that had electric and water connections? It really shouldn't count so long as I'm only using one set of hookups. One guy's opinion.
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I always told people that asked that it was a conversion van which usually elicits in most folks mind pictures of a Chevy van w/velour captain's chairs and shag carpet.
I think that's exactly what my wife thought when I first explored the idea of purchasing a class b RV. Maybe because I kept telling her to think of it as a custom van...but modern...with a sink and a fridge and a microwave and a toilet.
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I think Moosetags has been there/done that. Lets see if he checks in with his experiences. If not ping him. I recall he had a bad experience at a NW Airstream campground because his Truck bed camper was an issue.
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There is a sign at the Corps of Engineers campground where we stayed the weekend saying "Only 1 RV per campsite".
A state park where used to camp had a sign stating "1 Camping Unit Per Campsite Additional Tents $13.00".
You may get away with it of no one sleeps in the Interstate?
I have seen an B van towing a travel trailer before on 1 campsite at a privately owned RV park.
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To my way of thinking, that while the overall length of the TV and TT are a consideration, it is the electric, sewer, and water hookups that are an overriding factor. Campgrounds I have been in are set up to handle one RV per site unless you use the hookup intended for the RV in the adjoining site as well, in which case you are effectively occupying two sites.

Perhaps you could explain to the manager that you will only be using the hookups for either the TV or TT, but not both it would be allowed. However, I would not be surprised if you would have to make that argument at many (most?) campgrounds.
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Spoke to manager today and after much discussion she agreed to reserve two adjacent sites and I agreed to add an extra night and give her my credit card information. It's amazing how some things just solve themselves when you completely capitulate to the other sides demands.
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It's not a matter of length but rather that both the tow vehicle and the trailer are RV's.

OP covered that in first post. The rest is info needed for negotiations.
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When my kids were young we had a camper van towing a tent trailer and traveled all over the west coast. We stayed at state, federal and private campgrounds and we were never charged for more than one site. I don't recall anyone ever even asking. I don't tow with my current class B so for me now it's a mute point.
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There is a sign at the Corps of Engineers campground where we stayed the weekend saying "Only 1 RV per campsite".
A state park where used to camp had a sign stating "1 Camping Unit Per Campsite Additional Tents $13.00".
You may get away with it of no one sleeps in the Interstate?
I have seen an B van towing a travel trailer before on 1 campsite at a privately owned RV park.
These signs have just popped up in the past couple of years.
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I have seen a lot of those signs and campground rules.

I am pretty sure they are just to keep folks from doubling up

I really don't think an AI used solely as transportation/tv is going to cause much trouble.


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When I saw that sign at a campground Saturday I wondered "who would attempt to put 2 campers on one pad?"
No I know the rest of the story...
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