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Old 06-19-2014, 11:33 AM   #29
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A lot of shops use impact wrenches w/ a "torque stick" for a specific torque limit.

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Old 06-19-2014, 02:25 PM   #30
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Sorry to hear about this trouble and glad you found the culprit. I am afraid that getting a tire tech to use hand tools is like telling your yard guy to use a broom instead of a leaf blower ... good luck. Which is why I remove my wheels and carry them to the tire shop in my pickup. The ONLY person R&R my wheels is me. This is also why my family thinks I'm crazy.

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Old 06-19-2014, 05:34 PM   #31
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Actually the wheel damage reported by Jeff64 was caused by a sloppy mechanic and not by use of air tools.
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Old 06-19-2014, 05:36 PM   #32
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Ever since this thread was started I've been chasing my own problem with a steering wheel shake. I have finally discovered the problem and I think all AI owners need to be privy to my experience. I ordered a new set of the Alcoa wheels with the Durabright finish. I took them to a local tire dealer here in Missouri and had them installed, I then had a vibration or a shake in the steering wheel. I figured maybe the tires were a bit worn so I had them install a new set of Michelins, still had the same shake. I then went to another tire dealer and had them road force balanced, still had the same shake. The dealer assured me there was no movement in the tire or wheel. At this point I brought it home and started my own investigation. When I jacked up the front end and manually spun the tires I could see a small hop in the tires, I then noticed there was movement in the wheels like they were slightly out of round. I then removed the wheels and noticed there were indentations cut at three of the six mounting points where the hub sits on what I would describe as fingers for lack of a better term. There are six total, one under each stud mounting point, the three indentations were cut on one side and not the other of both wheels. These fingers are what centers the wheel and what all the weight rides on. These small indentations (probably 1/16 inch deep were the cause of the vibration because the wheel cannot center perfectly. (However on a spin balancer it will due to a different mounting method) How did these indentions get there? The guy at the first tire shop that installed the new wheels evidently hung the wheels over the studs and then started hammering away with an impact wrench while not taking the time to make sure the wheels were correctly seated over the fingers. These wheels are aluminum and must be treated differently than a standard steel wheel as aluminum is a much softer metal. I have since had my two original wheels (fronts only) reinstalled (they were undamaged) and the shake is completely gone. Sorry this post is so long but I hope I can prevent this from happening to anyone else and if you are having a problem I would suggest checking your front wheels if you've ever had them removed. It is very important to give your tire technician instructions to make sure the wheels are seated properly then tighten the lugs by hand then finish with a torque wrench not an impact!
Hi, this is what happens when a mechanic sets the wheel in place, slams the first lug nut down and goes in a circle instead of the proper diagonal pattern. Rule number one; Install all nuts before tightening any of them.


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Old 06-19-2014, 06:24 PM   #33
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You guys are all exactly right. Be aware that the guy was using a torque stick when the damage occured, they weren't over tightened, they were damaged because they weren't centered correctly then tightened by hand then torqued. I agree with 73Sharks solution especially since most of the tire shops will not let me the customer in the shop to watch.. who knows what is going on! Seems most of these tire guys don't care. The guy that reinstalled the old wheels did a great job and balanced them perfectly and used a standard torque wrench to reinstall. I slipped him a $20 for his willingness to do it right.

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