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Old 05-26-2014, 09:33 PM   #15
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Oh and yes I put a pair of michelin LTX M/S2's on the front and I have been very happy with them. I just ordered four more but have not installed them yet.
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Old 05-26-2014, 10:51 PM   #16
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Sounds like the tires are out of round. I just replaced a new set of 4 Michelin XPS-Rib tires on my 2011 Sprinter service van with 91,000 miles.

The ribs were vibrating noticeably and I swapped them out under the Michelin 30 day ride guarantee. Went back to the LTX-MS2s. Much better ride all the way up to the max speed of 83mph.

Your MB dealer is an idiot!!!!
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:50 AM   #17
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Early sprinters had drive shaft balance problems but I think that was long ago corrected. Carrier bearings may have been part of the problem, also. This in the 05 and 06 vintage not the newer ones. Jim
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:59 AM   #18
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If the Artificial Intelligence in my motor home caused a vibration while steering, I would simply pour a drink and let it.
Please, don't get too carried away with abbreviating and shortening words, it confuses people and could cause the person that has the answer to your problem simply pass the thread by...
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:36 AM   #19
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don't get too carried away with abbreviating and shortening words
In this sub-forum "AI" is the commonly accepted abbreviation for Airstream Interstate. I am certain there are lots of terms thrown around in the other forums that would throw the moho (motor home) guys for a loop.
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Old 05-28-2014, 05:42 AM   #20
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Thanks every one for all the suggestions! I will first take it to a local tire shop to redo the balancing.
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:46 AM   #21
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Thanks every one for all the suggestions! I will first take it to a local tire shop to redo the balancing.
Make sure their balancing machine does a road force balance.
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Old 05-30-2014, 09:04 PM   #22
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I went to a local tire shop who does Road force balancing. They spent about 2 to 3 hours and told us 5 out of 6 tires were so bad and all had road force in high 30's. They said however the rims were perfectly fine. They said they couldn't do much, however rotate the front tires with back. Basically they advise us to replace the tires. Now I feel the vibration is even little more(i feel some vibration on the chassi also) . The vehicle only has 8k+ miles. Does anyone here have any experience with airstream replacing bad tires if the vehicle is still under warranty?

Also the local tire shop didn't put the wheel nut caps(those shiny caps) back. They said that the caps are pretty loose and there is a chance that they may fall off. Does any one know if there is a way to install those caps securely? or any special tool such as a crimping tool?
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Old 05-31-2014, 12:15 AM   #23
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Does any one know if there is a way to install those caps securely? or any special tool such as a crimping tool?
Mine were that way also. I suspect that the manufacturer's tool that puts the indentation in three sides was wearing/worn out and didn't put a deep enuf impression in the caps. I put a piece of masking tape on two or three flats of the lug nut and then press the cap on. So far have not lost any more.
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Some thoughts:

First is that wheel end related vibrations (tires, wheels, and other rotating components) occur in the 50 to 70 mph range.

Second, rotating tires should have changed things - if the problem was tires and/or wheels.

Third, is that "RoadForce Balancing" isn't really balancing. It's measuring the amount of "out-of-roundness" of a tire and wheel assembly. The machine translates this into force (pounds). High 30's is a bit high for an LT tire.

Tires are usually warranted by the tire manufacturer, not the vehicle manufacturer - or in the case of a conversion, it would be Airstream as they converted a Mercedes chassis.

When a vehicle sits for a while, the tires may develop flat spots. That is usually not covered by the tire warranty.

Plus, if the tires were manufactured out of round, that would have been there right from the beginning, not be OK at first and show up later.

And lastly, tires are only warranted for vibration for the first year or 2/32nds of wear, whichever occurs first. I'll bet that the tires are over a year old and with 8K miles, probably too much wear, so you may have some issues getting the tire manufacturer to cover this under warranty - not to mention some of the other issues that might render the tire warranty void.

But go ahead and try to get the tire manufacturer to cover the tires under warranty. Your first step should be to call the tire manufacturer's toll-free phone number. Explain the situation in calm language. (The folks at the other end tend to be more sympathetic if they aren't being threatened.)

Which brings me to an interesting point: Why didn't the local tire shop offer to do the warranty on the tires? At the very least, they could have called the tire manufacturer - and tire manufacturers are usually willing to work a deal with tire dealers. The shop could have worked out some sort of deal, even if it wasn't a 100% exchange - so it's strange they didn't do that! (OTOH, some tire dealers don't feel that people who buy new vehicles are their customers, so they don't try to help. Short sighted, but true!)
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Tires are warranted through the tire mfg. jim
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Old 06-09-2014, 04:49 PM   #26
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Our 2014.5 Airstream had vibration over 65 to 75. After two balancing attempts. 60 miles than 1000 miles after first trip, The dealer replaced the Rims and tires. Airstream believed the wheel might be defective but wanted to run many test on wheel first. Dealer said no way and swapped. Excellent service!! It is now smooth!!
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Old 06-18-2014, 11:21 PM   #27
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Ever since this thread was started I've been chasing my own problem with a steering wheel shake. I have finally discovered the problem and I think all AI owners need to be privy to my experience. I ordered a new set of the Alcoa wheels with the Durabright finish. I took them to a local tire dealer here in Missouri and had them installed, I then had a vibration or a shake in the steering wheel. I figured maybe the tires were a bit worn so I had them install a new set of Michelins, still had the same shake. I then went to another tire dealer and had them road force balanced, still had the same shake. The dealer assured me there was no movement in the tire or wheel. At this point I brought it home and started my own investigation. When I jacked up the front end and manually spun the tires I could see a small hop in the tires, I then noticed there was movement in the wheels like they were slightly out of round. I then removed the wheels and noticed there were indentations cut at three of the six mounting points where the hub sits on what I would describe as fingers for lack of a better term. There are six total, one under each stud mounting point, the three indentations were cut on one side and not the other of both wheels. These fingers are what centers the wheel and what all the weight rides on. These small indentations (probably 1/16 inch deep were the cause of the vibration because the wheel cannot center perfectly. (However on a spin balancer it will due to a different mounting method) How did these indentions get there? The guy at the first tire shop that installed the new wheels evidently hung the wheels over the studs and then started hammering away with an impact wrench while not taking the time to make sure the wheels were correctly seated over the fingers. These wheels are aluminum and must be treated differently than a standard steel wheel as aluminum is a much softer metal. I have since had my two original wheels (fronts only) reinstalled (they were undamaged) and the shake is completely gone. Sorry this post is so long but I hope I can prevent this from happening to anyone else and if you are having a problem I would suggest checking your front wheels if you've ever had them removed. It is very important to give your tire technician instructions to make sure the wheels are seated properly then tighten the lugs by hand then finish with a torque wrench not an impact!
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......... These wheels are aluminum and must be treated differently than a standard steel wheel as aluminum is a much softer metal. I have since had my two original wheels (fronts only) reinstalled (they were undamaged) and the shake is completely gone. Sorry this post is so long but I hope I can prevent this from happening to anyone else and if you are having a problem I would suggest checking your front wheels if you've ever had them removed. It is very important to give your tire technician instructions to make sure the wheels are seated properly then tighten the lugs by hand then finish with a torque wrench not an impact!
Yikes! -- great info. Right on solution. These wheels, like all aluminum wheels should be snugged down with a ratchet and final torque with a torque wrench. Tell them to keep their air tools away from your aluminum wheels
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