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Old 06-15-2018, 03:01 PM   #1
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A real trash can for the Interstate

Looking back several years, there is no good thread devoted to the trash can question that plagues so many of us, so I'm hatching a thread now.

Our 2007 T1N Interstate does not have a dedicated space for a trash can. Some of the owners of younger model years have also rendered this same complaint in the past, on other threads.

I am determined that THIS IS THE YEAR when I will finally put this shortcoming to bed. We boondock almost exclusively, so trash management is a challenge, especially when it's raining and we can't burn it in a campfire. There are times when we accumulate a lot of it.

The question is -- do I build a proper trash can from scratch, adapt some existing product to the Interstate, or what??

One constraining factor in our case: we have a 50-lb dog, and we leave her in the van at times when conditions allow us to do it safely. Any trash can we use needs to be within cabinetry OR within our wet bath or else it will end up in her jaws. And I don't want to sacrifice valuable cabinet space for it, so I'm defaulting to the wet bath.

It cost me about 20 bucks to begin experimenting with this - a 32 quart (!!) recycling center insert from the BORG (link).

IMAGINE the luxury of a can that large in an Interstate!! I pity you folks whose wet baths contain an integrated sink in this location. I would much rather have one sink (galley) and one trash can instead of two sinks separated by about five feet.

I would need to create a good way to mount it on the wet bath wall without penetrating the wall... it speaks of heavy-duty Velcro to me.

And, it would need a cover for sure. If I crafted a shower-cap-style cover for its top, I could potentially even leave it in there when operating the shower. But it would still need to be removable; my husband is a larger size than me and so he'd probably set it on top of the galley counter when he showers.

The wet bath feels like a phone booth, but it is deceptive in its capacity to accept a lot of stuff. From this rather inelegant photo collection below, you can see that, despite this can's relatively large size, it really does not impinge on the commode. There's still plenty of space.

Anyone have any ideas for adapting this? Or other ideas for building one? I'm all ears given that I haven't yet decided how to proceed here.

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I envy you the extra room, but I'll still vote for two sinks. The bathroom sink is for uses that are, in my opinion, not compatible with where I wash dishes and prepare food.

We have the second row seats. I found a small, black trash can and bungeed it to the pillar behind the driver's seat. I use that second row seat quite a bit when parked and the can is not in my way at all. In fact, the flat top of the can is a convenient place to park my drink or the TV remote. Much more convenient than the built-in cup holder low on the wall.
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The question is -- do I build a proper trash can from scratch, adapt some existing product to the Interstate, or what??

And I don't want to sacrifice valuable cabinet space for it, so I'm defaulting to the wet bath.

The wet bath feels like a phone booth, but it is deceptive in its capacity to accept a lot of stuff. From this rather inelegant photo collection below, you can see that, despite this can's relatively large size, it really does not impinge on the commode. There's still plenty of space.

Anyone have any ideas for adapting this? Or other ideas for building one? I'm all ears given that I haven't yet decided how to proceed here.
Ultimate Survival Technologies FlexWare Sink with 2 Handles - comes in different shapes & sizes. REI stocked both rectangular sizes that I bought. Target had the round bucket. The round ones are deeper, the rectangulars are shallower, made to be used more as a portable sink. But we still use as trash can all over, even outside the rv. Go to main website and tab to Flexware or just click link below:

http://www.ustbrands.com/product-cat...-ust/flexware/

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Here's how they look scaled to AI bath when I was changing faucet. 1st pic completely collapsed under sink and can still hold toiletries while driving.
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Another side benefit other than takes very little space is they stack and bottoms grips any type of flooring. They are built to hold the water to the brim on whatever size you get. Impressed with it's weight carrying capacity.
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Old 06-15-2018, 03:59 PM   #4
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I got a small round stainless trash can with lid, foot operated- (Walmart I think).
It fits right behind the passenger seat- actually toward the centre. I strap my leveling block bag (I use under my jacks when needed) and the strap holds both in place well. When blocks are in use, I move the can a bit to the center anyway- so I can swivel the passenger seat.

I’ll see if I can get a picture together.

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Old 06-15-2018, 04:30 PM   #5
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Oval - not round.

That is a first aid kit on top of the leveling blocks.
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Or if you really want to maximize vertical space & minimize floor footprint, use 3" or 4" PVC pipe, cap bottom and screw on cap on top. My sample here is used for my water filter storage container

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Old 06-15-2018, 06:43 PM   #7
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...The bathroom sink is for uses that are, in my opinion, not compatible with where I wash dishes and prepare food.
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I'm not kidding about this part --

I will forever be grateful that I spent a lot of time growing up in an environment that leaned toward PWT-type sensibilities. It's a very low-maintenance way of being, liberating in unexpected ways, and I consider it to be the wellspring of my resourcefulness and creativity.

Most of my extended family had plumbing, but some households did not. The trip back in from the outhouse necessitated the washing of hands in the kitchen sink - we all did it. Nobody died as a result. At least, not from that particular part of the demographic experience.
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I grew up in the depression in Pennsylvania. For several years, we lived on the mountain and had no running water, sewer, or electricity. It was the outhouse, oil lamps, and a kerosene stove to keep us from freezing through the winter. My dad would bring home 5 gallons of water when he returned from work (when he had work).

The kitchen sink simply drained out under the house. One day, we had a black snake curled up in the sink, having crawled up the pipe. That wasn't quite as bad as the rattle snake on the path to the outhouse one night.

My grandparents never had any of those things until they retired to town when I was about 8 (1940). My grandfather ran a pipe up the mountain to a spring so that they had water in the warm months.

We survived all that, but I don't want to return to that. I prefer my two sinks.
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Old 06-15-2018, 08:33 PM   #9
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We use a plastic shopping bag hanging on the closet door next to the sink. This works well for us, especially when cooking. I just took my first shower in the AI, was better than the shower in our 25’ Flying Cloud!
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We use the canvas spring-supported trash cans with a plastic bag liner for easy disposal. They are light weight, won't rattle, and can "squeeze" to fit in tight areas. Walmart caries them for $6. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Spiral-Po...h-Bin/16817420

We use two. One in the wet bath and one in the rear lounge. The one in the rear is short enough to not interfere with the reclining of the seat. We just put a roll of spare trash bags in the bottom so they are always handy. Plus, their weight holds the trash can in place, no tip-over's so far.

Fortunately, our Suite model bath is pretty roomy and the one there fits beside the toilet with room to spare. We could even put it on the other side, but it would have to squeeze slightly.
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We still do not have a solution for this in ours...
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Old 06-16-2018, 07:39 AM   #12
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We survived all that, but I don't want to return to that. I prefer my two sinks.
If I were as concerned about the issue, instead of having a second sink, I'd keep a tub of disinfecting wipes in the wet bath, which I would use on my hands and then discard in my generously-sized trash can. I would then proceed to the galley sink for a finishing wash.

However, yours might be the more common preference, which is why Airstream (and multiple other manufacturers) began adding the micro-sink.

MIGHT be, because those buyers might not have considered their alternatives. If polled, I wonder what they would say if they realized that they could have a choice between the two? Triangular sink or triangular residential-sized trash can - pick one.

Trash management figures prominently in the hygiene scheme of things. One of the things I learned by boondocking in Canada is that we can **NOT** have any style of open-topped trash can. Every species of fly within a one mile radius will find it because that's what flies do - that is the sole function for which they spent millions of years evolving, is to locate trash. I've got 100x more to worry about from flies than my own unwashed hands. They land on coyote and bear and cat and dog dung, and then they land on my trash, and then they land on my galley counter. Not happening.
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Personally, IB, I think this trash can is disproportionately large for your Interstate, and doesn’t conform to your highly valued ideals of space efficiency.

It is hard sided, taking up the same amount of space when empty, will be an open trash container, and will have to be mounted on the wall...then there will be weight as it fills that may become an issue.

Perhaps reconsider, just being perfectly frank.

I have loved and coveted for years the black, 2.5 gallon I think they are, trash bags, which hung from a hook on the door of a lower cabinet in the galley area.

I think Brawny makes them, they are very sturdy, inconspicuous, and can most often be found at WalMart in the home goods department where small trash cans are sold.

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Personally, IB, I think this trash can is disproportionately large for your Interstate, and doesn’t conform to your highly valued ideals of space efficiency.

It is hard sided, taking up the same amount of space when empty, will be an open trash container, and will have to be mounted on the wall...then there will be weight as it fills that may become an issue.

Perhaps reconsider, just being perfectly frank.

I have loved and coveted for years the black, 2.5 gallon I think they are, trash bags, which hung from a hook on the door of a lower cabinet in the galley area.

I think Brawny makes them, they are very sturdy, inconspicuous, and can most often be found at WalMart in the home goods department where small trash cans are sold.

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Maggie, until we find an acceptable alternative that works in our Lounge, we are following what you have done for years. Our brand varies and we get them in white to try to make them less visible... but same approach.

I just found your post funny!!
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