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Old 10-27-2013, 11:41 PM   #29
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By the way he described them, I assume that they were captive cage nuts. When the bolt is removed, the nuts are retained loosely in the cage that is welded to the bottom of the floor. At least that's one possibility.
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:21 AM   #30
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Sorry I wasn't more precise. Yes, they are captive, but they are loose in some type of guide track that runs parallel to the length of the van. It appears that there are different designs because the screws are bolting into the floor.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:50 AM   #31
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That appears clearly different than the ones in 2009 where two of the nuts/washers are clearly visible on the RH side perpendicular to the length of the van and the other two on that side could be inside what appears to be factory bracing. Forget the LH side above the fuel tank. I'm glad to see AS might have learned enough to make the nuts captive. I would suggest that if you're not using that particular nut, put a bolt in it so it doesn't slide into an unusable position.
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:01 PM   #32
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Airstream must have change it from 2013 to 2014 as mine (2013) clearly has no captive nuts. I wish it had. I left the set mount in and took it of on the turn bracket.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:35 PM   #33
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So today I cut the heavy rubber stall mat that I am using to cover the second seat row area. It took some time and careful measuring, but was able to get a good fit. This will help to cushion the dog crates that will get stacked and they will be located behind the driver's seat. In addition, this is a very durable and stable surface. The second picture is a cardboard mockup on the positioning of the lower crate with the side angled at 75 degrees. I put the driver's seat all the way back and angled back further than I would ever drive in that position. The dimensions of the lower crate is 45"x 30" x 28"h. There will be a door facing the side entry. I'll post an update when I have the first one built.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:38 PM   #34
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With the crate mockup...
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So today I cut the heavy rubber stall mat that I am using to cover the second seat row area. It took some time and careful measuring, but was able to get a good fit. This will help to cushion the dog crates that will get stacked and they will be located behind the driver's seat. In addition, this is a very durable and stable surface. The second picture is a cardboard mockup on the positioning of the lower crate with the side angled at 75 degrees. I put the driver's seat all the way back and angled back further than I would ever drive in that position. The dimensions of the lower crate is 45"x 30" x 28"h. There will be a door facing the side entry. I'll post an update when I have the first one built.
Are you going to relocate the switches/outlets that will be obscured by the crates?

Off-topic: You might want to reorient your fire extinguisher bracket to a vertical orientation. Mine was originally horizontal as yours is, until I hit one too many New Orleans potholes and the plastic bracket broke. It's not really designed to support the weight of the fire extinguisher horizontally. After I bought a new bracket, I installed it so the extinguisher is vertical (with the base resting on that ledge) and have not experienced any trouble with it since.
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Old 10-30-2013, 10:20 PM   #36
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Protagonist, thanks for the suggestion on the fire extinguisher. I have read some of your comments and your mods are very helpful! I will definitely change that fire extinguisher configuration. If you have a source/suggestion of replacement brackets that would be helpful. With regard to the switch outlet that the crates are blocking, for now I am going to leave it alone. If I need to, there's still room to plug in to the switch as the crates are not flush against the wall-- admittedly, not the easiest to get to with the crate there...I'm starting to build the crates tomorrow, and hopefully finish within the next two weeks.
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Protagonist, thanks for the suggestion on the fire extinguisher. I have read some of your comments and your mods are very helpful! I will definitely change that fire extinguisher configuration. If you have a source/suggestion of replacement brackets that would be helpful.
This one.
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Best of all, it's metal, unlike the plastic one that Airstream installed.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:28 PM   #38
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As promised, I finished the first dog crate and installed it in place of the driver's side second row seat. I still have the second crate to finish that will get placed on top of this crate and secured. I will post the final set up in a dog/pet thread. I'm very happy with the stall mat overlay. The bolts that held the second row seats have been tightened in place with shorter bolts and there is no rattling.

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Has anyone else removed the second row for standard crates? I want to do this.
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There's a couple of posts in this forum section about removing the second row. Might try the search function although I've had mixed results w/ it here and on other forums.
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Jackie, if you want to talk through the seat removal and crate install, feel free to call me. 703-499-2808. Steve


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Old 03-08-2015, 08:50 PM   #42
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Unfortunately, I couldn't remove the chair on my own... I'm going to need help from my friend next week.

I do like that crate you have in that photo. After trying my crates in the space, I'm not happy with how they stick out past the driver seat. It makes it kind of hard to squeeze by... I'm thinking about getting custom crates made... Do you make them?

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