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Old 01-15-2015, 10:13 AM   #29
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The cheaper kit is just assist airbag, not a full suspension system. The Glide-Rite on top of that web page is a full suspension system, but you will have to call them for a price that I think is compatible to the VB system. Both are approved by Mercedes and made in Europe.
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Old 01-15-2015, 03:25 PM   #30
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They need to work on their web page as it certainly isn't apparent that there talking two totally different setups.

Even then I don't see what is locating the axle. Called Upscale Automotive and they said that what looks like a sway bar is a track bar that provides lateral location. Inquired to pricing and it will be about $10K () installed w/ mods depending on the pound exchage rate and the generator on the AI is in the way.

Oh and BTW it's not DIY. He said some fab is req'd.
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They use front leaf spring mount for track bar that locates axle and have air bag between axle and front mount and another air bag at end of track bar. VB system used just two air bags at at the end. Curious why they use four airbags in Glide-rite system compare to VB system that uses just two airbags? Glide-rite system don't have true lateral track bar, they use sway bar to assist with lateral movement. In VB system they do have lateral locating bar that mounts between axle and subframe. But, $10k is too much money.
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Yeah just $6 for the parts seemed a little much to me. Not sure I would trust a sway bar to provide lateral axle location for a vehicle that weighs over five tons. I also asked if the pressure in each air bag could be adjusted manually for leveling purposes and the answer was no.
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Old 01-27-2015, 04:27 PM   #33
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We just got a price for upgrading shocks....

This is the combo that Koni suggested for the AI:

Koni adjustables on front, and Koni FSD on rear.

They want $2,000 including labor. This seemed super expensive to me. Lew (Lewster) told my husband that this seems about right.


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I got the same Koni combo installed by Sprinter Store (Upscale Auto) near Portland, OR for $1,310.
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I got the same Koni combo installed by Sprinter Store (Upscale Auto) near Portland, OR for $1,310.
That was more like what I thought it would be.

Anybody else have thoughts on the price?
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ALSO....I just spoke with the Sprinter Store.

Our complaint is about the sway in winds, as well as when you drive over a speed bump or a driveway entry at an angle. We have no complaints about the ride otherwise.

With that in mind, the Sprinter Store guy said that, instead of doing new shocks, we'd probably get the best result by adding a "rear spring assist kit" and an upgraded sway bar on the back.

So now, we're thinking we might do this first and see how much it helps.

The fact that the rear spring assist kit would raise our rear up about an inch, is also a good thing, in my opinion (tired of bottoming out!).
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With that in mind, the Sprinter Store guy said that, instead of doing new shocks, we'd probably get the best result by adding a "rear spring assist kit" and an upgraded sway bar on the back.
Word of warningó If you go with a larger-diameter sway bar than you already have, it will probably rub against the generator enclosure. There really isn't a lot of clearance there.

You can still do it, but you can expect a, "What's that noise?" reaction when you hear it rubbing, and you'll scratch up the generator enclosure something fierce. But it's not like anyone is ever going to see it except when you have the generator pulled for maintenance.
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Word of warningó If you go with a larger-diameter sway bar than you already have, it will probably rub against the generator enclosure. There really isn't a lot of clearance there.

You can still do it, but you can expect a, "What's that noise?" reaction when you hear it rubbing, and you'll scratch up the generator enclosure something fierce. But it's not like anyone is ever going to see it except when you have the generator pulled for maintenance.
Thanks, Protag. I don't think we want any more noises coming out of the space shuttle, so, might not be a good idea!
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Be aware that increasing the size of the rear sway bar will reduce understeer. It could go into an oversteer condition if it went too much bigger.
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Bars need to be matched. I put a rear on my Dodge and had to upsize the front as a result.

I would put KONI shocks on anything I owned were they available. I wouldn't even make it home after vehicle purchase to do so first.
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Thanks weirdstuff for info on spring assist kit. That sounds like something I'd like to add to my van. That kit wasn't available last summer when I had the Sprinter Store install my Koni shocks.
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Thanks weirdstuff for info on spring assist kit. That sounds like something I'd like to add to my van. That kit wasn't available last summer when I had the Sprinter Store install my Koni shocks.
FYI...he said that kit is about $650. plus installation. I don't really get what it is, but it sounds like it might be a good place to start!
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