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Old 01-09-2014, 04:57 PM   #29
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I am looking for tire rotation and balancing advice.
According to the Mercedes Benz Sprinter Maintenance Manual, page 5:
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If your vehicle's tire configuration allows for tire rotation, tire rotation should be performed in accordance with the recommended intervals.
Now here's the kicker. Our Interstates have three different rims: Front, outer rear, and inner rear/spare. Strictly speaking, the configuration does not allow for tire rotation. But also look at page 11 of the same manual, which calls for tires to be removed and remounted at every Oil Service Plus (odd-numbered multiples of 10,000 miles) as well as Maintenance Service (even-numbered intervals of 10,000 miles). One would presume that remounting includes re-balancing.

So, every 10,000 miles, the tires must be removed from the rims and remounted. They can be rotated at the same time, by remounting the left front on outer left rear and vice versa, same on the right, and then inner rears swap with each other. The spare is not part of the rotation.
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Old 01-09-2014, 05:19 PM   #30
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What about alignment?
Almost forgot this part of your question. The Sprinter Maintenance Manual is surprisingly silent on the subject of front-end alignment. From a practical standpoint it makes sense to check and if necessary adjust front-end alignment the same time you rotate tires, or every 10,000 miles.

About the only regularly-required service that will NOT happen at intervals of 10,000 miles is adding DEF, which you will do when the dashboard display tells you to, no sooner and no later.
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Thanks everyone for input. I understand what the manual says. I also realize that some manufacturer maintenance requirements are overkill and money makers. I really hate getting my rims scratched by tire rotation/changes so I'll have to look at the tire wear more closely and evaluate against my driving usage.
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Our Interstates have three different rims: Front, outer rear, and inner rear/spare.
OMG - I had assumed the rims were all the same! That explains why Advanced RV has opted for no spare at all - it doesn't make too much sense when you can use one of the duals at the front in an emergency.
That would make it expensive to do a proper rotation.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:11 PM   #33
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I had always assumed that the Assyst system simply counted down to 10,000 miles then alerted you to have the vehicle serviced. A previous post on this thread seemed to indicate that the alert could come at more or less than 10,000 miles depending on vehicle useage. Does anyone know the straight skinny on this?
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:58 PM   #34
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I believe the front wheels and the outer rear wheels are the same wheel, just finished on one side, which is what necessitates unmounting and remounting the tires when you switch ends on the RV.
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Old 01-10-2014, 06:45 AM   #35
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I had always assumed that the Assyst system simply counted down to 10,000 miles then alerted you to have the vehicle serviced. A previous post on this thread seemed to indicate that the alert could come at more or less than 10,000 miles depending on vehicle useage. Does anyone know the straight skinny on this?
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For normal preventive maintenance, it's mostly mileage-based. A few items are based on years or mileage, whichever comes first, such as engine oil (2 years or 10,000 miles), grease in the differential (10 years or 60,000 miles), and coolant (15 years or 60,000 miles). Other items are based solely on years, such as brake fluid (2 years).

However, you can get alerts at any mileage if you're low on one fluid or another, such as DEF or brake fluid. Or if there's a malfunction in some system that has sensors, such as emissions control.

You can scroll through the ASSYST system displays until you see a message "Service due in XXXX miles." Note, however, that after the first service, the interval will no longer be every 10,000 miles. It will be 10,000 miles after the previous service, not quite the same thing. In my case, I had the "Schedule A" service done around 9,880 miles, so my "Schedule B" service will be due around 19,880 miles. When service is performed, one of the items of work is resetting the ASSYST system so the miles remaining to the next service starts counting down from 10,000 again from the current point.

At least that's how the Sprinter service tech explained it to me when I had the 10,000-mile service done.
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Thanks Protag, I apprctiate the explaination.
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Why is it bad to add DEF before the computer prompts you?
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Why is it bad to add DEF before the computer prompts you?
It's not. But let me turn the question around… Why is it good to add DEF before you're reminded to? The tank holds a total of 4.9 gallons, and the first ASSYST nag screen comes on when 1.5 gallons are left.

When the ASSYST nag screen pops up, you're supposed to add at least 2 gallons to shut the nag screen off. I buy in 2˝-gallon containers, so when I add DEF, it brings me up to 4.0 gallons. No danger of overfilling, but I'm still adding plenty.

If you want to add DEF more often, how do you determine how much to add, and how often? There's no dipstick or gauge to tell you the level at any given time.

I suppose if you buy direct from Mercedes Benz— they sell by the liter, but charge a bloody fortune for it since they import it from Germany— it's easy to add small amounts more often, once you have enough experience to know how often to add said smaller amount.

But waiting for the nag screen to remind you does no harm, and is easier all around, so that's what I'll keep doing.
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For some reason, I just burst out laughing while reading this thread. Once again, a bunch of us dazed and confused Interstate owners seeking answers!!

This is reminding me of the thread I started where I asked about the power systems. Remember what happened there? One of our awesome members ended up making a flow chart for us! That was cool.

I'm thinking we might need another flow chart to plot out service stuff, including the tire rotation. Anyone want to do this? Anyone? Bueller...Bueller??
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@weirdstuff.....made me bust out laughing sitting here in airport. Glad I am not the only "dazed and confused" owner out here. My wife asked to me to create a few flow charts for her....the third week into reading the manual(s). I had to start one for myself😀. Being of German extraction and an engineer myself I can understand how/why they did a lot of what they did 😃😃, but dang it.....it all reads like an old IBM manual.
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But waiting for the nag screen to remind you does no harm, and is easier all around, . . .
Unless you're a thousand miles from home w/o a funnel and can only find it in one gallon containers.

Whoever designed the fill tube should be water boarded. Even w/ a funnel, it's not easy. The Peak Blue DEF 2.5 gallon containers help w/ the fill tube they've incorporated for the container.
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Unless you're a thousand miles from home w/o a funnel and can only find it in one gallon containers.
When the nag screen first pops up, you've got about 1.5 gallons left. You don't start getting the doomsday timer "XX starts remaining" until it's down to about 0.8 gallons left, which gives you a few hundred miles to find a source of DEF.
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