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Old 11-28-2015, 06:14 AM   #29
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Our terrier had this surgery successfully -twice. Immediately after the first one healed she blew out the one on the opposite side. Also successful, and after it healed she was good as new.
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:19 AM   #30
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Out Corgi's and their tendons

Our 2 year old male Corgi "Dennis" tore a rear leg tendon and we did all the research as you have and decided no surgery and just to let time heal his damage. The process was long and challenging and not a lot of fun for him but he is doing great now. He was recovering for 12-18 months.

We happened to come a across an add for Laser Therapy posted in the Vets exam room and decided to try it. I would say he showed dramatic improvement from the treatments. We did 2 -6 session treatments. His bother, now a 6 year old Corgi "Barkley" has what is thought to be a slight tear in a rear knee and we will start Laser Therapy on him tomorrow. Barkley limps when he first gets up from a resting position and after 10-20 steps is fine so his damage does not seem as sever as Dennis had.

Plus Laser Therapy is not very expensive. Surgery is and no guarantee.

Good luck.... Nothing has more Soul that an Old Dog.
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Old 02-20-2016, 01:03 PM   #31
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Dingo is still with us... and has figured out that his life as a Working Cattle Rustler is over. Becoming more of a spectator sport, watching Blue the Heeler fill in.

Dingo in the process of wanting to be a normal 100% Heeler sprained his back running on three legs, so that he is operating on two hind legs that now require taking it easy. He has managed to slow down and watch more and participate less.

Our camping will require that he gets a long cable at the camp site when we go on a long hike... his hind legs would be tested long before ours give out.

This is our best option. He has already become adjusted for his new career.

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Old 03-25-2016, 04:47 PM   #32
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Pain Relief has worked for Dingo

Dingo with three strong legs and still believing he was operating on four, tore his other rear cruciate ligament. This was less than two months ago while the first was developing "scar tissue". He now "limits" his bursts of energy with weaker rear legs. Dingo weighs in the 60 to 65 pound range.

Of course he seemed lethargic and not wanting to, what I term, 'hop a long' for very long.

We determined he was in pain, but dogs do not show it like people. They just are lethargic, when they are usually a very active Blue Heeler.

The biggest turn around was mixing two pain medications. My wife gets the vet's prescription and fills it at Costco.

- Rimadyl Caplet 100mg- split one caplet and give 1/2 tablet twice a day.

Dingo became much more responsive and will never have 100%, but I would say he went from 25% to 65% active immediately.

We took Dingo to a Vet Physical Therapist who confirmed everything we already knew. She recommended swimming therapy and other expensive therapies. We can do that ourselves. We were getting into hundreds to thousands of dollars... Sorry, but the end result was no different than what we do here at home. If you have listened to these therapy sessions offered for your pet... you already know.

This time we added:

- Gabapentin 100mg capsule to the previous 1/2 Rimadyl caplet... both twice a day.

The addition of Gabapentin may have helped some, but the 1/2 100mg caplet did the most improvement of pain mitigation.

We asked for "pain mitigation" and not physical therapy in lieu of two operations.

Dingo has figured out how to avoid slippery ice on pavement by walking into snow, and can go up several steps without looking and spending time to judge the difficulty. He can go on short walks and seems to be as normal as possible, considering his current limitations. Dingo's rear leg muscles are about 50% of his pre rear knee injuries. We hope to keep him moving outside to maintain, if not develop more muscle.

Putting Dingo into the back seat of our Tundra, we have his Pet Porter on the ground, he goes into it and my wife and I lift it and slide it onto the back seat. Both of our Heelers travel in their Pet Porter on the Tundra's back seat from the time they were pups. It takes more effort, but we do not mind. As long as Dingo can maintain his current living situation, we will do what it takes and the pain medications seem to have helped considerably.

If any of these posts helped you with your dog, all these posts by members have not been wasted.
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Old 03-25-2016, 04:56 PM   #33
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Poor Dingo.


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Thank you for the updates. Take care of yourselves and Dingo. Lisa
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Old 03-26-2016, 10:40 AM   #35
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Sorry for what is happening with Dingo.

This thread shows such an amazing group of dog lovers. I am surprised, though, to hear of such widespread incidence of this problem. Praying I don't. Face it with my dogs.
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Our Dog Dingo... Cruciate Ligament torn

I believe your posts have helped me, Ray. Lupe has always been a little overweight at 42-44 pounds, which the vet would have liked to get down to 40 pounds, but since Lupe is very active and healthy, the vet stopped mentioning it a year or so ago. But then something must have changed, and Lupe's weight crept up to 46 and then 48 pounds. When she hit 48 pounds, the vet gave me a short lecture that made me feel like I was back in the Marine Corps again. She said, "This dog has gone from overweight to obese! I want her back here in 2 weeks for another weighin, and she better be down to 46 pounds." Then she went on to explain to me the dangers of a torn cruciate ligament, and that until Lupe gets back down to her normal weight range of 42-44 pounds, she didn't want her jumping in or out of cars, etc. it was okay if she ran fast on level ground, but no jumping at all. Because of what I've read here, I took the warnings about torn cruciate ligament seriously, and I have been lifting Lupe in and out of my truck. We cut Lupe's rations in half, and cut her treats in half, not in number but in volume, and Lupe was 45 1/2 pounds at the two week weighin.

Interestingly, we thought we were failing miserably to get Lupe's weight down during the two weeks, because first we would weigh my wife and then my wife would hold Lupe and we would weigh them together on our home scale. Doing it that way, it seemed that Lupe had only lost a half pound, and we didn't see how that was possible on half rations. But on the vet's more accurate scale, she was down 2 1/2 pounds, which was more than we expected.

So we will continue the half rations until Lupe hits 42 pounds, and then try to stabilize her at that weight. It took both Ray and my vet to get my attention on this one; I'm not sure either one alone would have reached me.


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Old 03-27-2016, 08:00 AM   #37
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My wife is a veterinarian, now retired. She started to see more cruciate ligament cases toward the end of her years in practice because so many of her patients were overweight (she would never say it, but so were a lot of the owners). She didn't do orthopedic surgery so off they went to the surgeon which, of course, could get pricey.

Totally unsolicited advice -- when you look at your dog, you should not see ribs but when you run your hand down its flank, you should easily feel them. Keep them light and you will keep them longer.

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My 10 year old Ginger,(Golden) developed ACL about 2 months ago. We thought she strained herself in the deep snow. When it did not get better in a week we took her to our vet. He said right away it was ACL, but she may get better. He gave us some pain pills, enough for two weeks and a referral to a animal hospital who does the surgery. In about 10 days we made a appointment for a consultation and x rays,we had to wait 3 weeks for an appointment. The surgeon said i would give it another month. That would bring to April 8th. Since it happened and up until now there has been a marked improvement in her energy and her walk, her se-saw gait is almost gone. She gets up slow yet on kitchen floor but gets up normal on carpet. She wants play a lot, but we are very careful. We boost her up into suv and i lift her out holding her hind legs by her belly. Two more weeks till we see the doc again and we will see what he recommends. She steps into my Scamp camper just fine. This has been an worrisome ordeal for us. Carl
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Something you might consider http://www.muttkneebrace.com/ I have no experience with them myself but have heard they really help out.
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Less Pain = More Active dog in recovery

Wonderful information from those who know from previous postings!

Dingo and our younger Heeler, Blue are on the 'light' side for weight and size. At times we felt that the younger female who is about 75% the size, gets into Dingo's food when he is not paying attention. He eats in spurts, walks off and comes back to discover less in his food bowl.

Several days ago a smoke detector alarm went off in the basement indicating the battery was low. Dingo went down two flights of stairs to follow us to the noise and followed us back up the stairs. For a dog with TWO ACL injuries... the recover has not been fast, but he sure appears to be getting use to his limited activity of chasing rabbits and protecting the gardens from the 20 more deer that roam around here every day for green grass and eatable plants.

His light dragging of his rear toe nails is less. His gait is more normal, but I do not expect a 100% recovery, but a 75% to a possible 80% recovery may be possible. The pain medication doses are still the same as I reported earlier. The 'gait' is what I have noticed improving the most. A normal walk and not the 'hopping' as earlier reported.

Since we hiked every morning and have cut that out with the heavy Spring snows, he wants to play tug of war with his rubber ring and has found a comfort level for activities. We have not tried to reduce the pain medication... yet, but that may be a second test of where his pain level has become.

He is alert. More likely to go outside when the younger Blue wants to sniff the previous evening's deer passing through our yard and settling into the scrub oak in the area during the day.

If this improvement keeps up without surgery, I am impressed that the recovery has been achieved with the use of pain medication and light physical activity. Activity seems to be improved over the previous week.

More pain = less active. Less pain = more active.

We have two neighbors that their dogs 'injured' a hind leg recently. One is another active Heeler and one dog not so active, but runs back and forth along their yard when a vehicle drives by.

I do hope these posts of mine and other dog owners, help some of you and your decision to medicate for a recovery and operate for a recovery. For us, the pain medication provided a quick response and as of lately, Dingo is getting along better than expected. This should encourage those who might find that what we did may help you, as well.
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Ligament tear

I have a 6 year old American Staffie who just had this surgery in December and he's doing great. He had the titanium plate installed and it was not cheap, 8k, but I did have pet insurance which covered 90%. I highly recommend insurance if you can swing the costs, about 55 a month, but after what he and I just went through it is well worth it. Vet said that eventually it could happen to his other leg. This is the most expensive, and from what I've read, the most effective long-term solution of the three options. So far, so good.

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I have a 6 year old American Staffie who just had this surgery in December and he's doing great. He had the titanium plate installed and it was not cheap, 8k, but I did have pet insurance which covered 90%. I highly recommend insurance if you can swing the costs, about 55 a month, but after what he and I just went through it is well worth it. Vet said that eventually it could happen to his other leg. This is the most expensive, and from what I've read, the most effective long-term solution of the three options. So far, so good.

Good luck.

Hi, we have never had dog insurance, but we spent half of that amount for bladder stone surgery for Dusty. At 18.5 years old we only give him Baby Aspirin and Benadryl.
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