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Old 02-11-2005, 01:22 PM   #29
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Not in America!

The person who found the dog would have to have the smarts to look up the County, (anmd maybe State) muddle through the phone menu, and then what???

Our local County Animal Control is VERY hard to get ahold of, I had to make several attempts last week just to find out how to TRANSFER Rabies tags for my new girl.

Our dog gets their rabies tag from the vet when they get their shot, and it has the vet's name, address and phone number on it. The vet should be able to look up the number and contact us.

Our county dog license has a phone number on it also. Dont forget that at least in our area a county dog license is your pets ticket to good medical care if they are found injured - I guess they figure they'll be able to find you and you'll pay the bill. Animals without a county license who are found injured may just be put to sleep.
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Wow! it is amazing how different neighbouring countrys can be.

As the tags are double sided - if the person get the Vet info first then we have left contact numbers and an itinerary with their file.

As you say some are not too swift out there and probably just turn the dog in to the pound - which is not a bad thing either - as most pounds will search for tags then tatoos and chips.

We could just write numbers on her Vic-Collar NOW! what is that saying Murphy's Law - one week before we leave - we dropped $400.00 on surgery for Taz this afternoon. She woke up yesterday with a quarter size hematoma in her right ear flap - it was 3 x the size by the time we could get into the Vet this morning. So now she is on meds, and has to wear her "bucket head" until the incision is healed over.

It happened 2 years ago compliments of Haily with her puppy teeth in her other ear - Haily was a bold puppy back then and within seconds was reefing on the Vic-Collar. After a good wack this time around by Taz a bit off kilter - Haily is giving a wide birth to Taz.

We have great medical care for our stray and lost dogs - most vets within the reach of pounds volunteer.

We are very thankful for the network that the Rabies Imram and other companies have set up.

With all the neat things the States do - it is very amazing that sychronizing rabies tags on a National issuing basis to all vets, States, Counties etc is not available. We have pounds, shelters, breeders, Vets, Vet Clinics, Municipalities, towns, cities, Regions, Provinces and the list goes on. If you can manage taxes and voting then a few tags for those who get Rabies shots - which is a pretty mandatory item for most - you would think to be a simple corporate undertaking.

I sure hope the E-Tags work for you folks. Hubby is a Diabetic on an insulin pump and relies heavily on his batteries - and I tell you he has had many brand new duds! (watch batteries to boot)

A 30 second warning and all the info goes! I don't suppose there is a spot in the back to store the back up batteries???
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Old 02-11-2005, 05:09 PM   #31
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So, did you get an E-tag???
Yep, I ordered 3. For our two and one for my son's.

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Old 02-11-2005, 09:55 PM   #32
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Yep, I ordered 3. For our two and one for my son's.

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Do you suppose Bean will give me a kick back??? :-)
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Post Toby's tag

Toby's tag has been ordered from LLBean. He is looking forward to his new accessory for spring.. lol..
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Old 02-12-2005, 06:22 AM   #34
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Keeping a collar on them is so important and I love ugly ones that glow, you can see them almost before you can see the dog. I live in a rural area and have alot of hunters with dogs close by. If I see a dog that doesn't have a tag I will call animal control. When I see a dog with a day glow or any other collar we call the dog tie him so he won't run off and call the number on the tag. I have united many dogs and owners. Left alone they will roam in packs and attack other animals including humans. That has also been a problem for us.
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Old 02-12-2005, 08:12 AM   #35
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Left alone they will roam in packs and attack other animals including humans. That has also been a problem for us.
I fully agree with you. I do understand that there are wild animals lurking immediately beneath the fur of the pets we sleep with.

BUT, I can't imagine my three little GOOFY Jack Terriers (the old guy is a Rat) in a killer pack. It's laughable. It could make a GREAT Saturday Night Live skit.

Anybody remember the Van Buren Boys on Seinfeld?
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Toby's tag has been ordered from LLBean. He is looking forward to his new accessory for spring.. lol..

I deserve a kickback!!
Or at least a Margarita.

You guys will lOVE the tag. It's a bit heavy, like a Casio G-Shock men's watch size, maybe a little smaller. But it's COOL.
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As the tags are double sided - if the person get the Vet info first then we have left contact numbers and an itinerary with their file.

As you say some are not too swift out there and probably just turn the dog in to the pound - which is not a bad thing either - as most pounds will search for tags then tatoos and chips.
Illinois rabies tags, or at least Winnebago County tags, are just little pieces of punched aluminum, always in a different shape. 2005 is a blue scalloped flower. The vet, and County could track the dog by that number. A regular citizen coudl NOT.

It seems as if it's the Rabies vaccination COMPANY that is so on the ball and helpful. That is so wonderful!

But my biggest fear is that whoever foiund them woud just keep them. So collar or not, let's all be VERY careful.
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We also live in a rural area and see wandering dogs now and then. I have caught a couple, and when you call the owners they are annoyed you stopped them. "If you'd left him alone he knows his way home," like it's normal to let your dog wander the streets while you're gone, annoying the neighborhood! I even had one tell me to just let him go, he'd find his way home! I refused, made him get off his lazy butt and come get his dog! He just lived down the street. Within a year that poor dog got hit by a car.

This bothers me even more because I have stopped catching them when I see them loose (a lot of them are big scary farm dogs), and I'm sure many people, if they saw my dogs wandering down the street, wouldn't even bother to stop them! I've put out the word to my neighbors, if you ever see one of my dogs, stop them!

Hopefully it will never be an issue.

I'm interested to hear what people think of these new-fangled tags when they get them in hand!
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I guess it is all relative like everything in life there are responsible people and then there are the "others" who just don't care about the "stuff" they own or how their "stuff" affects others. Whether it is junky yards, Tiranical kids, out of control pets, oh and lets not forget those who drive like they have never been in a car before and think there is no one else on the roads but them....they are all part of our society - everywhere!

I think the better half of Society put far too much effort into playing it safe - when all is really needed is special care for your pets - not putting them in a situation where they could get lost. Or for those where all you have to do is crack the door and that little you know what is outta there - some consistent training to change that habit would be a lot more productive than a "if I get lost tag".

I know there is always an unforseen circumstance lurking - but most lost dogs are those that have not been trained to stay close to their masters - or homes. Usually ones that never have a chance to run off lead, kept in a fenced back yard or worse always kept on a rope, chain or some type of restraining device.

If they know they can run and come back for a treat or something that says it is nicer at home than it is running at large (except for the breeds that running is their life - like the Hunting Hounds) Then we would probably see a lot less dogs running loose.

Collars can come off, tags can be lost, tatoos can fade, chips can migrate or stop giving their signal - so all you have left is your Pet - and hopefully some sensible training - orientation to where you are and some communication to people in the surrounding area where you camp. Right down to asking the Ranger to let you have 15 minutes to run a drill of "find your camp" - sort of like a fire drill for humans. If your dog gets loose - find out what they do and correct it and reward them.

Oh and Taz is doing great - ear flap is healing just nicely and should be all closed up for our long drive this coming Friday.
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Old 02-12-2005, 11:28 AM   #40
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I'm interested to hear what people think of these new-fangled tags when they get them in hand!
I had already researched, and bought, and programmed, two tags before I started this thread. I was so impressed with them that I wanted to share.

I have had customers in my shop (Dilly works with me) ask what it is, and I have asked them to tell me if it works; if they can read it.. and they all can.

The biggest problem is getting the dog to quit squirming, but then, that's a terrier.

A couple of people (customers) have said they don't think it's worth the money, like it's just a fad, and frivolous. (these same people can't seem to find the money to buy anything in our shop, either :-) )

I don't really care what their unsolicited opinion is, because in the case of deaf Dephanie, I can seriously justify it.

But we of Airstream fame are prone to liking high-tech and originality, now, aren't we???.
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I think the better half of Society put far too much effort into playing it safe - when all is really needed is special care for your pets - not putting them in a situation where they could get lost. Or for those where all you have to do is crack the door and that little you know what is outta there - some consistent training to change that habit would be a lot more productive than a "if I get lost tag".

I know there is always an unforseen circumstance lurking - but most lost dogs are those that have not been trained to stay close to their masters - or homes. Usually ones that never have a chance to run off lead, kept in a fenced back yard or worse always kept on a rope, chain or some type of restraining device.

I repeat.. they're Jack Russell TERRIERS.
They know no fear; they're looking for excitement.

Plus, you could always lose one (or two) in the case of a car accident. God forbid.

I do agree that training is SO important.

But, in Dephanies case, she's been here just one week, we're her fifth home, and she has been abused. It is AMAZING to me how resilient and smart she is. And she is working SO HARD on trusting us. When I come home from work, she cringes and submissive peepees. I made a special sign for her to tell her "all's well" and she can see my hands are open and not going to do anything to her. It's working well.

I like your idea of having a practice drill at a campsite. But I will NOT let them run loose.

And I will certainly tell everyone around our campsites to help me keep an eye on her. My cell phone number is in the front side window when we're away. These little doggie clowns can open doors, but not locked ones :-).
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That's why they call them Jack Russell TERRORS I wouldn't be surprised if they figured out how to open doors!

That's great that you've had a chance to let your customers check them out. If they can read it on a wiggly JRT, it must be readable!

Good luck with your new deaf friend. I've been around a lot of deaf Dalmatians, and it's wonderful the progress they can make with a caring and devoted owner. There's few things as impressive as a deaf dog attentively watching it's owner for hand signals. As for the abuse, Chester was also abused, and three years later he still panics sometimes if he is surprised by something, even though nothing bad has ever happened to him here. It takes a long long time to forget.
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