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Old 06-23-2004, 02:14 PM   #1
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Hi ALL....
Funny how a GOOD day soon becomes a BAD DAy...2Day is My D/Ds 28th Birthday, & they say BAD luck runs in 3's...1st. I got My car totaled, Then Mark My son tripped over His shoe lace & fell into a movin car at 40 mph, FORTUNATELY, his hospital stayover was only a few days...He is home now, very sore & sorry 4 Himself.....SO, with all this happenin within a couple of weeks or so, & car-huntin as well, our TOBY'S vet visit was delayed by a couple of weeks, SO catch up time was 2day... Lisa's B/D...
Orf We Jolly well go...2 the VETS, Toby likes 2 SING as LOUD as He CAN, & believe Me this IS one NOISY LABRADOR...when He gets the Mardy's on...LOL...HE HATES that place....He has his BOOSTER injct: As always the VET checks him over...a LOT of proddin & listenin goin on here 4 My likin...finally She says, he's NOT WELL...He has a HEART MURMOUR...& has a droopy rear end belly, possably WATER infection...So they say they want 2 keep him in & check him out properly, also he IS unusualy OUT of breath quite easily, Now being 8, we all thought it was PUPPY old age....But I guess we gotta get Him sorted out, He's FAMILY....So We gotta take Him in next Monday...He realy WILL B stressed out bein there...So NOT lookin 4ward 2 that at all....Lisa IS very upset, some birthday 4 HER...Chris.....
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sorry to hear about the misfortune! Hopefully the pooch will be ok with some medical attention. We lost our two cats in a short time recently. One of old age, the other died suddenly of cancer.
Just got two kittens though after a few months of no cats....they are a hoot!
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Old 06-23-2004, 07:08 PM   #3
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Sorry to hear that, we'll be hoping for the best for your pup!
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Chris! Hang in there!

Our Pekingese was diagnosed with a grade 3 or 4 (6 being the worst) heart murmur in January (her age is unknown - we adopted). We've done two ultrasounds since to verify the problem and to see if it is getting worse. Thank goodness it is not. These things can come on very quickly as you have discovered. Hopefully yours is like ours - static. We have to moderate exercise and watch her carefully for stress but, overall, she feels real fine now. If we don't push her, she is great.

They say that heart damage can be brought on by oral hygene (or lack thereof)... Have you had your pups teeth cleaned recently? Talk to your vet before doing anything because you can damage the heart valves by not taking necessary dental precautions. If there is a known valve problem, most of the time they'll give antibiotics to protect the heart from bacteria that enters the bloodstream during the teeth cleaning process. Goes for humans too. Food for thought.

Also, why all the boosters? You might be dealing with something brought on by over-vaccinating your pal. Click Here for important information from the University of Wisconsin Vet School regarding vaccination protocols.

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Old 06-24-2004, 02:04 PM   #5
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Hi All....
Toby is a bit bttr 2day thank's, He realy HATES goin in the car, 'cos the ONLY time He goes in it, IS 2 the VET'S....I noticed he gets tired lately, We also made an app: 2C the vet on Monday, He'll get the WORKS, & find out jus how things R with Him, Naturaly we WLL do ALL we can 4 Him, Well He's FAMILY....
His boosters R 4 2 protect Him from ailments of various sorts....I'll C what they R 4...& if He realy needs them...agn thank's 4 all Yr support here, Sorry I gotta go 2 vist Mum, as She NOT well either, BLESS HER...Chris.....
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Bless You and Yours Chris ...
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Yes, the problem is called mitral valve prolapse. Cleaning the teeth can get bacteria into the blood via the gums, which then attacts the heart. I have to take prophylactic antibiotics when I get my teeth cleaned. Bummer. silver suz
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Chris,

Please read the article before going to your vet and take a copy with you - Click Here.

Many vets don't know this information, really. Vaccines can be their bread and butter. I cannot tell you how many times we have had to warn our vet(s) from giving vaccines to our dogs for things like kennel cough (has been compared to a common cold in intensity) and corona virus (recent studies imply that it does not exist in the canine population - it could be a vaccine without a disease). Food for thought.

The article, above, reports:
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Today, many vaccinated dogs receive a shot for Lyme disease. However, Schultz says that the ticks carrying the Lyme disease pathogen can be found in only a few regions of the United States. More importantly, Schultz adds, "The vaccine can cause adverse effects such as mild arthritis, allergy or other immune diseases. Like all vaccines, it should only be used when the animal is at significant risk." He notes that the Veterinary Medical Teaching Hospital at the UW-Madison School of Veterinary Medicine rarely administers the Lyme disease vaccine.

Another common vaccine that Schultz says is unnecessary protects against "kennel cough," an often mild and transient disease contracted during boarding or dog shows. "Most pet dogs that do not live in breeding kennels, are not boarded, do not go to dog shows and have only occasional contact with dogs outside their immediate family," Schultz recommends, "rarely need to be vaccinated or re-vaccinated for kennel cough."
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An interesting story; When I met my wife she had been previously diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse and was taking antibiotics before every dental appointment (2 to 3 times a year). Soon, she became allergic to most of them (and still can't take most any antibiotic to this day). Ten years later, one of her doctors suggested she get an updated cardio screening and he and the specialist discovered that the original diagnosis was incorrect... The earlier diagnosis had affected our health insurance and life insurance rates in addition to causing her allergies to antibiotics. A second or third opinion is often warranted.
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Hi Xray....

Well U stirred up a FEW issues here...the Vet was Quite taken back by it all, naturaly She said She was a Proffecional...& knew exactly what was what ( Snotty Sod )...However, we DID manage 2 get a HALF PRICE check-over 4 TOBY, Bless Him...& r awaitin results, I told Her...Don't let us wait TOOOO long...( That nvr went donw 2 well either )....BUT as I SAY...""" IF it was'nt for people like ME havin pets...U would'nt B in a JOB """...it ALWAYS upsets them, U kn, it makes Me mad when they try 2 think people r jus MONEY MAGNETS, how many REALY DO CARE 4 the animal they R fixin-up...??? How DO we kn if the pills R suitable 4 the complaint, thus being reccomender BY the Manufacture, & if they purchase MILLIONS...they get them 4 next 2 NOTHING, Oh it happens...I used 2 use this GREAT inhailer 4 My Asthma...then I got SOB...it was'nt quite the same, a little TOO weak, I complained, AS USUAL...took ME ages 2 get My prefered one prescribed bk 2 Me...OK, U may B the DOCTOR...BUT...WHO'S got the illness, who's BODY, LIFE is it...NOT Yours, If everyone was WELL...WE would'nt NEED U...so do AS I ASK, NOT as U think FIT, I'm the ILL Guy, I PAY for my Medicine...NOT U..so sort it....Sorry 4 the harshness here...but WHO'S life is it...Gets 'em EVERY TIME...LOL....
Realy makes Me ANGRY, when people like them ALWAYS think they can white-wash U over....Same as a replacement part 4 Yr vehicle...U KN the ORIGINAL part is gonna outlast the copy part....Cheap things work out TWICE as DEAR things..I learnd that VERY quickly...SAME goes 4 OUR TOBY...I think he DESERVERS a QUALITY life after all, HE IS FAMILY...Chris.....
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