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Old 01-21-2008, 12:37 PM   #15
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As I understand it, it would involve starting with things like knocking on the door and get them really excited so they bark, reward him, do that for a while until you have a good reaction to a door knock, then move on to outside, have a friend walk up (preferably someone he doesn't know well to start with) and get really excited and encourage him to bark, reward, etc. Of course once you've opened that can of worms, there's no telling how much barking you'll get!

Eskimos are definitly 'nuisance barkers' But we love her anyway. She tells the other dogs when to bark!
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Old 01-21-2008, 12:47 PM   #16
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Both my labs will bark at anyone who comes up the walk to my home. It's enough to deter anyone who isn't supposed to be there. Friends know that the boys are just barking a greeting. I'm fine with strangers not knowing this.
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Sorry to here about your misfortune...glad everything is OK...I too have a Yellow Lab that barks at anything that comes around...we have a privacy fence around our pool in the back where we keep Jessy...anything that comes near that fence gets barked at...it scares ME when she gets to barking and I am with her everyday!

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Old 01-21-2008, 12:56 PM   #17
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Thanks, Steph - I will do some more searching and see if I can find anything on this. I will try knocking on the door and stuff to see what he does. He sits and looks when the UPS man or the meter reader or anyone else comes onto the property, so I don't hold out a lot of hope, but maybe he'll come around.

That's funny about your dog, Gene! Sounds like the kinda dog we need. Maybe she can give Shadow lessons.

That made me think - if a dog has that "alert" behaviour, can it teach another dog just by being around it?

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Old 01-21-2008, 01:26 PM   #18
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We have a sensor on our driveway with a little receiver in the house (our dogs are in at night) that buzzes to let us know if anyone--including a coyote or bobcat-- is coming onto the property. The dogs set up a major racket whenever they hear it. They don't really bark much otherwise, but they're terriers, so they can really raise the roof.
I think by acting really alarmed and getting them worked up every time it buzzed when we first got it taught them what to do--similar to what Stefrobrts suggests.
And yes, dogs definitely cue off each other. But yours doesn't even bark at he UPS guy? Hmmm. That's one laid-back pooch.
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That's funny, Janet - I was just thinking about a sensor for the driveway. There is only really one way to get a vehicle on the property, so that may be a good indicator. Not so great if people infiltrate through the woods, but there's not much we can do about that.

He is only laid-back in this ONE regard. He is Hyper-Hound in all other areas. He reminds me a lot of a Border Collie - he even gets that look and gets low and slinky when he sees the mules playing near him. We couldn't even pet him for the first 11 months of his life since he was so hyper. I was glad to get him back from being neutered since he was still a little woozy from the anesthetic and actually stayed still long enough for me to get some good pets in! He seems to be calming a little, but not much yet. I am holding out hope for the 1-1/2 year mark!

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Old 01-21-2008, 01:51 PM   #20
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I'd gladly trade your dog, for our new lab who won't shut up!

Another thing I like are motion sensor lights. If someone comes onto your dark property, they have to use a flashlight to see what they're doing, which is suspicious to anyone who might happen to see them. Then if a motion light suddenly comes on, they don't know if that's a motion light or if someone saw them and turned it on.
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Aw, sorry about your new dog, Steph! I hope it settles in and calms down. A friend suggested a human-controlled bark collar. You want the dog to bark in the right situation, but not all the time. An automatic collar doesn't care what situation is happening - it works on any bark. But a human can be selective and let the dog bark (and praise him) in the right situations and stop him in others.

We do have a motion-sensor light on the garage, which comes on if someone is in the regular parking area, but Brad had parked the truck off in an ancillary area that was not covered. Maybe we can put one up on the barn to come on if there is motion in that area.

I agree - a barking dog and lights coming on would be enough to make me find another place to rob!

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My next door neighbors have a big mean looking Rottweiler. They keep it chained to their deck in back. It is quite friendly and pays little attention to their other dog - a Miniature Pinscher, which they let run loose.

The little dog is a great watchdog in that it does not miss a thing and barks loud and long at anything that moves. The Rottweiler is friendly, even around children - they have two under 5 years old.

But, the Rottweilers initial response to anyone or anything is to come down off the porch at a full tilt in a snarling, snorting, growling, barking, chain dragging display that would scare anyone with a strong heart clear into the next county. Anyone with a weak heart might just drop dead from fear - it is that bad.

We were a little disturbed by this dog when they first moved in but have come to appreciate the level of protection that it provides. Her owner is a State Trooper and the dog is as much, if not more of a deterent than the cruiser in the driveway.

My own dog is a Lab/Beagle mix and she'll only bark until you pet her. On top of that - she can't hold her licker.
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Here is an interesting dog, supposed to be the ultimate in protection!

The Canis Panther is a strong, well-muscled breed of protection dog. They have a broad chest and a very wide jaw. Their ears are typically cropped and their tails are docked. They have a short-haired http://<font face="Times New Roman">...</font></font> that exists in a http://<font face="Times New Roman">...</font></font> of solid http://<font face="Times New Roman">...</font></font>http://<font face="Times New Roman">...</font></font> chocolate, black, fawn, and blue gray
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Sorry about your problems, glad that the damage was light. It’s still disturbing, though. I was broken into twice when I lived outside Austin in the Texas hill country. Mostly kids. I lost a Colt Target Woodsman .22 target pistol that is irreplaceable since they are out of production, and electric guitar, and an answering machine(?). Another time I caught some kids trying to steal the exhaust off a friends ’73 charger sitting on my property.

I agree about the alarm dogs. My neighbors have a Jack Russell that is an excellent alarm dog. He barks at everything that comes in their yard, but does not nuisance bark. He is inside most of the time, though. I was trying to setup their wireless router last weekend and they had to put him in a bedroom. They also have a mid-size poodle that will become friends given the chance, but the Jack Russell doesn’t warm up very quickly.

Nonetheless, a little alarm dog would probably get your more laid back one in the act.

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I 2nd the comment about Aussies or look at Anatolian shepherds (large, docile and protective). If one socializes an (we have had many) Aussie they are very nice but are very aware of what is going on.

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A neighbor in the city had one, very similar to the German Shepard, can

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Interestingly for me, I just started working on a finca raising 30 Malinois, and renting nice gaited horses in season. I'm learning more everyday about the breed, the only problem is they are smarter than I am. They are incredibly athletic, high energy, and their personalities run the gamut, from 6month old pups that will excel in bite work, agility, and even be a semi house dog. They are first working dogs, they really do need a job. But remember that they are becoming popular with police and the military, the IDF, I've read, is changing to this breed. But what that means is they are superior working dogs, not vicious animals. You can't have junkyard attack dogs working around the public.

My old friend in the Air Force K-9 cops, loves them, they go to work with them, and take them home to the family at night. They're extremely loyal, and well behaved when trained properly, just like children and poodles...

My pooch Nyx has lived with me for 10 days. She is an awesome dog, but I've been so busy shoveling poop and feeding horses, that my time available to properly train her has been limited.

One piece of good advice that I can give from my 2 weeks of experience, for anyone considering the breed, is don't buy a puppy. Nyx was almost 2 when I bought her. This is not late to start training by any means (for this breed) and the breeder will know exactly what type of an animal you're looking for. We have a few that would be perfect for you, and a few that we would never sell as your relationship with teh dog would be a failure. But this is really no diferent from any breed that you'd consider.

The sire of my pooch weighs 95 pounds, bred in France, Executive level protection trained in the CZ Rep, and a great big fun brute to play with. Her dam is similar, excelent genetics, I wouldn't buy a Malinois from a puppy farm.

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Rasta, an animal that you want on your side, but also an excelent companion.
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