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Old 08-14-2015, 03:08 PM   #85
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^^^ Yes, much bigger. On paper, might just be three inches, but in reality much more in my opinion. For one, the height of bottom of rear seating, along with no storage box under it, allows room for a dogs body to partially rest under rear seat. He would be in back center floorboard, but not pressed up against a wall. Difficult to explain.



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Vans are for kidnappers, plumbers, and Scooby Doo.




Although this might (or might not) surprise some of you, if buying a vehicle today it would be a Dodge Mega Cab 3500 SRW 4x4 CTD/AISIN. Longs ways from there to a Navigator, I agree. I'm just doing my due diligence and the Navigator is the most promising SUV to consider. The more I look, the more viable the Navigator appears.

Was just following up with what Slowmover mentioned here earlier regarding big changes for 2017 Navigator. They are profound, if what I read is true. Major style change to include larger and more roomy body, 700 lbs lighter due to aluminum, and a 10 speed. Dang. That's a lot to consider when buying the same long in the tooth vehicle less than a year prior to an update.

Regarding the Mega Cab, it would actually be a good move to get our shepherd and kids in the backseat, especially the dog. His spot would be the back center floorboard. While more room than any other truck, it is still worth doing an actual dry fit. Thanks for the idea Kelvin.


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Old 08-14-2015, 03:28 PM   #86
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Dan... a good dealership would let you take the truck overnight (or at least for an afternoon) for a "test fit" without committing to buy. Just be sure to return it free of dog hair and such... unless you don't WANT to return it!
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Hah. I might try that and see. Would be hard to take it back the next day though. Same reason you don't let kids bring stray animals home.


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Old 08-14-2015, 03:44 PM   #88
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Kelvin,

Vans are for kidnappers, plumbers, and Scooby Doo.
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But, it sounds like you already have a "Scooby" in the family


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Old 08-14-2015, 05:08 PM   #89
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Hah. Good one. I hate vans. Nothing about them appeals to me. Thanks Moflash, three van suggestions since our Lol Athlon. Vans are not an option. Which is a good thing, if I had to research all vans in addition to trucks and SUVs, this would take even longer.

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Old 08-14-2015, 07:38 PM   #90
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Well you guys angled gals can say what you want, but I like my dodge with the 6.7 come along he ain't scared of the passes ,up or down, and you don't have to go up with your flashers on at 30 mph, your 6 litre fords and the V 10's don't even come close, just sit back and relax at 64 mph. There is no such thing as too much horsepower or too much money, we're heading up to Powder River Pass in the morning....have a nice weekend...
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:57 PM   #91
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Powder River Pass as in Rt 16 over the Bighorns? Just hit that last month with my Excursion 6.0 PSD. Camped at Lost Cabin, took a drive down Crazy Woman Canyon (no trailer) and engine braked all the way down Ten Sleep. Piece of cake.
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Well you guys angled gals can say what you want, but I like my dodge with the 6.7 come along he ain't scared of the passes ,up or down, and you don't have to go up with your flashers on at 30 mph, your 6 litre fords and the V 10's don't even come close, just sit back and relax at 64 mph. There is no such thing as too much horsepower or too much money, we're heading up to Powder River Pass in the morning....have a nice weekend...

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First of all, I will trust the good judgement of you more experienced guys and gals not to make this an advertisement for the Ram, Bow tie, or blue oval you have tattooed on your butt cheek.

I can think of about a half dozen reasons your truck sucks for my intended usage.

Otherwise I would drive 5 miles away and buy one.


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Old 08-14-2015, 09:26 PM   #93
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Old 08-14-2015, 09:48 PM   #94
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Thanks. I appreciate the insights.

Is that 1680 lbs on the driver door jamb sticker, or literature?



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Dan, I checked the door. GVWR is 7520 lbs. EL 4x2 is 5897 lbs. I guess I am actually 1623 lbs payload. Still all things considered, that ain't bad.

Looked at Fords website again to see what the 4x4 looked like. It's a couple hundred pounds heavier so guessing a little over 1400 lbs payload on those. Not sure about the Lincoln. I bet it weighs more so might be less payload. I would check that out for sure.

Noticed on Ford's website they have current new incentives on the 2015 Expeditions now cash back and 0% for 72 months! With stealers giving $??K off msrp and that Ford deal added you can't go wrong.

You know, I'm starting to wonder with your needs for a large vehicle to haul your family and pet around will the 27' Airstream even be big enough to be half way comfortable? Maybe a 30' and a Ram Mega Cab Dulley
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First of all, I will trust the good judgement of you more experienced guys and gals not to make this an advertisement for the Ram, Bow tie, or blue oval you have tattooed on your butt cheek.
I completely agree. There's no reason to be brand specific because each manufacturer has had their day and will continue to do so. Loyalty to one brand means we miss out on a fantastic product from the other team.

Let's face it, Ford had the 7.3 Powerstroke and that thing was an institution, GM's Durmax will turn anyone's head (you know you want one) and well Dodge, they had the 225 Slant Six. My grandmothers Dart ran forever.
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Seems to me your decision comes down to how you see your situation moving forward. If you have something like acreage and horses, then a truck is in order. If you live in the suburbs or the city then a truck is a hassle. Do you envision mostly hauling people or hay? The Navigator can capably haul the Airstream, that's settled, what else are you seeking?
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It does seem that the Navigator represents the best compromise, given your particular set of circumstances. You can make either of the alternatives work, it's just a matter of determining what compromises you are willing to make to achieve your desired attributes.

As for pre-determining that this vehicle has to be THE one to carry you for a long-term period... why lock yourself into that. If needs or desires change, you can change the vehicle. No need to put yourself in a self-imposed sentence with any vehicle. Make the best decision you can for today's forseeable needs and go with it. When time comes that a change might be in order, make it. It's just a vehicle, not a marriage.
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