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Old 09-10-2006, 03:05 PM   #1
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Which is worse when towing, trailer angle UP or trailer angle DOWN?

If you had to choose the best of a bad towing situation and had to tow your AS (pick a distance) with the AS either angle down towards the TV or angle up towards the TV, which would you choose and why?

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Old 09-10-2006, 03:09 PM   #2
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How about D none of the above.
The trailer should be parallel to the ground. Do you have some pictures it may help trouble shoot the problem.

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Old 09-10-2006, 03:11 PM   #3
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If your using a hitch with a 2" receiver you shouldn't have to make that choice. With all the different draw bar choices (drop or rise)you should be able to get it very close to level.

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Old 09-10-2006, 03:28 PM   #4
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It should be straight.
But when the tonque weight is low a bit down should be OK
NOT up .
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Old 09-10-2006, 03:28 PM   #5
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Level is where you want to be, but...

Page 14 of my 1973 Airstream manual states while adjusting the factory load equalizer bars one should raise the ball height "one-inch from where fully loaded trailer hitched to vehicle normally rests without leveling bar attached" - so one-inch above level obtained AFTER correct goose-neck or air-bag or air shock adjustment produces ideal towing via best weight equalization...

Hitch point high increases load on rear axle, hitch point low increases load on front axle plus increases susceptibility of tail-wagging AND reduces weight on the tow vehicles steering axle, a nasty combination in weather or unpaved roads.

So to answer your question, trailer angle down towards TV is worse case scenario...

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Old 09-10-2006, 03:49 PM   #6
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hi streamer1

of course level is best but that isn't what you asked, is it...

it's an interesting issue...

i suspect it depends some on other factors too...

like % of wt on tongue, #of axles, lenght of trailer, condition of brakes, mass of tv, wheel base of tv, payload of tv, type of hitch, use of w/d bars and rating of w/d bars, road conditions and travel issues like distance, speed and incline. and other things...

if using w/d bars i suspect nose down is the lesser evil, since as the bars are tightened there is some upward movement at the hitch...

it would seem under most conditions without w/d nose lower would be better too.

if the tongue is really heavy and unloads the steering axle...i'd reposition trailer load to reduce this...but too much and the tongue that's bad...

when my hensley was first shipped and mounted the 6 inch drop bar was too much so i towed 1500-2000 miles with the trailer low in front...i didn't like it much....

level is so much better....

why do you ask?

i wondered about this issue too when trying to select the ideal drop bar...

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Old 09-10-2006, 05:26 PM   #7
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2airshuman, the trailer I am purchasing is situated under trees in a mountainside campsite. My intention is to tow it down the mountain road (probably a 5-10 minute drive) then head 200 miles to Tennessee (stopping along the way at a Wal-Mart) to have new tires installed on the trailer and then continue towards the Airstream dealer for servicing. After servicing, I will head to Nissan dealer to have a WD hitch installed (which I have already purchased). Then, I will head home to Metro DC much more prepared for a long trip.

Since the trailer sits on gravel on a slight incline, I'm not sure on level ground with a simple std straight hitch if the trailer will tend to sit up or down. The trailer is a 1996 25' Excella. TV is a 2006 Nissan Titan.
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Old 09-10-2006, 06:04 PM   #8
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Wallymart might not have them

You might want take your tires with you. None of the Walmarts in our area stock trailer tires, the ST tires are always a special order even at Sams Club. Ran into this same situation in Wisconsin several years ago when trying to buy a tire on the road , when we had to replace a trailer tire . Not sure if this is true in all areas of the country but you could end at an RV dealer and paying an outrageous price.
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Old 09-10-2006, 06:19 PM   #9
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in horse trailer land... (my experience) you never want the trailer pulling up on your rear axle. Seems like travel trailers would also cause the handling to be really witchy if it was pulling up on your real axle
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Old 09-10-2006, 07:11 PM   #10
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Yes 63air, I forgot to mention I plan on getting the tires ahead of time. Good point though.
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Old 09-10-2006, 07:33 PM   #11
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Streamer....If you've already got the WD hitch why not have it installed prior to the pickup?
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Old 09-10-2006, 07:44 PM   #12
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I concur that I wouldn't want the trailer pulling UP on the hitch. These trailers are delivered to the dealers by trucks on the ball - without sway control or weight distributing - I understand.

Whether or not you should try that with a Titan, which I don't know much about - I don't know. I imagine that those delivery trucks are honkin' big jobs that weigh more than the (empty) trailers they're yanking around - so big that they absorb any of the wayward tendencies of the tow.

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according to the airstream site,

the '96 25ftr is 6000lbs dry, 7300max and has a 730lb tongue weight....

and the ball height is 18.75 inches.

given this info and the nissan receiver height, you should be able to get very close on the stinger drop needed....

a w/d hitch is needed over 500lbs and the specs are close even for new titan.

note i am not suggesting the nissan is over all.

do you have towing experience?

some folks find that the dealer will tow it in that first trip, especially if you are gonna spend money or repairs/upgrades...200 miles? i would ask 'em how much to do this....

while the trailer is newer, brakes and bearing may be original? might be a good idea to inspect and repack before going DOWN hill....

i have talked personally to 2 happy buyers that wrecked their newly purchased airstreams....on the first short trip be safe.

enjoy the trailer, that is a great size and layout...

and let us know what happens and what drop bar, you use...

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Old 09-11-2006, 01:22 AM   #14
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Just thought I might offer my 2 cents to this topic. I have an 03' Duramax towing my 30 foot AS with Load Leveling system. My set-up when looking at side view is perfectly level. Problem I'm starting to experience, is that the trailer goes into a high speed rear push at around 65 or so. Does this going down hill and on level ground. Not the most pleasant experience for either my passenger (who can feel the trailer pushing) or myself who's trying to keep the vehicle in control. Maybe this isn't the correct topic to post a question like this, just thought I'd throw it out to see what responses I collect.

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