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Old 01-26-2013, 10:59 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by dkottum View Post
We travel 6 winter months each year, not full-timing but you learn some things from those who do.

It's hard for me to imagine a heavy duty pickup as ideal for this purpose, it's only advantage is heavy payload (do you really need it). The most obvious problem it presents is a poor daily driver. Less obvious is it amplifies the worst traits of a lighter pickup truck, heavy unsprung weight in the axles, high center of gravity, poor handling solid axle suspension, and more weight to move down the road, stop, and maneuver in emergency.

I have seen these in front of 25' Airstreams and they are impressive to those who use them, and me.

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They will soon have an eight speed transmission for the Hemi. A similar but slightly smaller version of this is offered by Jeep, same drive train. We have this engine in our truck, it has never wanted for power.

But that's just me offering one more lousy opinion, with almost no information on how you camp, travel, drive, or what equipment you need to take along.

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An A/S can be towed by car, minivan or truck. It's up to the owner when all is else is set up right. TV payload is the single concern. And, as most of the TW will be spread across the pair of vehicles once set up, the concern about TV payload is not the problem blown up by many. A truck if you need it . . . and determining need is more about solo miles than about towing (where the former predominates for annual miles).

Keep reading. All of this has been covered before.


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Old 01-26-2013, 11:20 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Wazbro View Post
To answer your question (unlike others) with the 6-speed trans the 3.73 rear would be best, if it is a 4-speed the 4.10 rear would be better IMHO.
x2, You have plenty of truck with the 3.73.
I don't regret have a 3/4 ton tow vehicle to tow a smaller (25 foot) Airstream.
In Colorado, you get your money's worth going down a steep, curvy mountain. That's when you get the payoff for the bigger brakes and stiffer suspension.
The 3/4th ton truck may ride a little rougher, but the half tonner is almost as big and inconvenient in the city.

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Old 01-26-2013, 11:20 AM   #17
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My 5.7ltr Tundra has a 4:10 rear end. I average 18+ mpg when not towing. The top 2 speeds in the 6 speed tranny are both overdrive. When I'm running at 60 mph the engine rpm is 1600. I really don't think it needs another gear.
I have a '74 Argosy 26'. GVWR 6200. It weighs 5500 when ready to hit the road. Tongue weight is 690.
I just upgraded from a '98 3/4 ton Dodge to the Tundra. The curb weight of the Dodge is 5900, with a full 42 gallon fuel tank. The curb weight of the Tundra is 5460 with a full tank. About the same as the trailer when loaded.
The FW tank is across the front of the Argosy which contributes to the 690# tongue weight.
I was under the impression that the newer trailers had moved the FW tank further aft.
Which makes me wonder why the tongue weights are higher on the newer models.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:27 AM   #18
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First off, I traded in a '12 Chevy 2500HD 4x4 with the tow package for a '13 Grand Cherokee that has 20 foot pounds of torque more than the truck! The GC has a 7200 pound tow rating. After reading the posts here for the past six years, I questioned some of the conclusions on weights and towing capacities. Based on Airstream's numbers, the GVW of the 25 Safari is in the neighborhood of 7200 pounds. The GC wasn't going to cut it. That is until I weighed the trailer. On a commercial scale with full propane tanks and no water, the 25 weighed 6280 pounds.

One afternoon, my wife and I went through the trailer and eliminated things that hadn't been used for five years, dumped the dinner service for six, got rid of the pots and pans that could be used for catering and threw out board games that were never played.

While there is a lot of good information here on Airstream Forums, it is not all gospel!
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:57 AM   #19
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For 'Full Timing' I would want the most capable vehicle I could afford. If I was just a 'wally weekended' that would change everything. As a full timer a truck with a cap is a must. The ability to 'carry' stuff is very important.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:02 PM   #20
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When I had my 25' Airstream, an '11 Toyota Tundra 5.7 w/ tow package was an outstanding match to the trailer. Very precise steering, and lot of power. Engine didn't race typically, very relaxed tow. Highly recommended.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:35 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by tuffr2 View Post
For 'Full Timing' I would want the most capable vehicle I could afford. If I was just a 'wally weekended' that would change everything. As a full timer a truck with a cap is a must. The ability to 'carry' stuff is very important.
You're a 5th-wheeler, not an Airstreamer, tuffr'. The concept of stuff is different for most of us (another arguable point). Has to be.

Our own trips (6 months each year) are with a light truck, bicycles, generator, a few hoses, and rv water softener in the bed. I think if I was full-timing I would find secure storage somewhere and call it home port, and leave as much as I could there.

Shed stuff, less is more when traveling.

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Old 01-26-2013, 02:11 PM   #22
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I pull a 34 foot triple axle that grosses 9600lbs with a 3.73 rear. You don't need a 4.10 unless you're pulling a 40' 5er. Get the 3.73 and go traveling
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:18 PM   #23
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First of all, thank you everyone for your input. It has been so valuable in our decision. We are also now trying to consider other options besides a pickup, but I am not seeing much out there reasonably priced except something along the lines of a 3/4 ton van such as the chevy express. Anyone use one of these? It looks like it meets the specs for weight and payload but I don't see anything about engine/transmission cooling in them and it has a 3.42 axle but from everyone's input it seems that the axle would be okay.

Again, thank you all so much.
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:37 PM   #24
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I have a 25 FC and I tow with a Suburban 1500 5.3L. I have a 4spd and 4:10 gears. I am quite happy with the towing. If I had a choice, I'd have gotten a 3:73 gear, not a 4:10.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:43 PM   #25
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A van is a good option. My friend has the Chevy Express 2500 painted red. So it is called 'Big Red'. He does not tow with it but carries a lot of sports plagues, sports mags, and trophies that he takes to shows. He says he really likes it. My neighbor has Ford E350 which he carries people and a wheel chaired elderly person. Says he likes it.

You did say you will be full time - correct?

If so, a van might actually be better than a truck. You will still be interested in quality of life so you can carry things that you.enjoy. Life is too short not to do what you want - if you like wood working you can carry wood working stuff, if you like hiking you can carry that stuff etc. I meet a couple full timing in a 1974 25 footer. They both had fishing poles and tackle boxes because they liked to fish.

Chevy and Ford still make full size vans.

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Old 01-26-2013, 08:41 PM   #26
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So, I cannot thank everyone enough for their input!!!
I think we are going to go with a Silverado 2500HD with the 3.73 axle and the 6.0 engine. Now it is time to find one.
Again, thank you.
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Old 01-26-2013, 09:02 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by Dobber View Post
as another Newbie, i have to agree with the others.
the TV you have in mind is WELL capable of doing what you are considering.
as we are in the exact same situation, i wonder if you aren't going over what you need if this will be your DD too. i will be pulling the FC2012 and i am looking to get a Ford 4x4 150 eco Screw 3.73 rear with HD tow and Trailer pkgs 6.5' bed 18" LT tires and the Hensley Hitch. we will be FT for a least a year all over the States and most likely Canada and i am confident that these truck specs will make for a safe and uneventful tow. imho anyway. i would love to get your opinion, have you considered any Less of a truck ?
We did consider a 1/2 ton including the Ford F150 eco but what it came down to for us is the payload. Estimating from what I have read the tongue weight would be 1000-1100lbs and that would bring down the available packing of the truck to a couple hundred pounds after passengers. I did not want this to restrict us in any way.
As we only own one car (I bike everywhere) I don't want to own 2 cars and this will be our daily driver also. The 1500 and 2500 don't seem very much difference in size. We own a CR-V right now so they are both big compared to that! Here's my main thing, I don't want to push the truck's capabilities. I want something that I can just tow with and not have to worry at all about what I am packing it up with.
That about sums up my thought process on the 1/2 ton trucks. Just what I came up with from these forums and others responses to this thread as a whole.

And congrats on full timing it next year!!!
We can't wait to hit the road.
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Old 02-13-2013, 12:46 PM   #28
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