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Old 04-08-2014, 08:39 PM   #1
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I have made a few seemingly minor adjustments to my set up but have noticed a huge difference while towing as far as sway is concerned. I am curious to know from you guys what you think made the biggest difference. The hitch and sway bar are exactly the same. To the camper, I added 6 gallons of water to the hot water tank which is just behind the driver's side tires. I also had the front of the trailer about 3" higher than the back because I didn't have time to lower the ball to the next set of holes before our trip to the keys. I have since made that adjustment, but haven't towed for any distance. For the TV, I just upgraded my 2002 Toyota Sequoia with 201k to a 2005 Toyota Sequoia with 97k. They are almost practically the same truck with the same wb. The 2002 had LT 245/75 R 16, 80psi, max. and the 2005 has P265/65 R17, 45psi max, tires. The body is the same, but the track went from 76" to 79". Also the newer truck has the addition of factory rear airbags. The whole set up seems much more secure and stable. With the old set up I was comfortable at 60 and occasionally at 65, but terrified at 70. The the new set up I was able to comfortably drive at 70 for long days, 8+ hrs and even one 16hr day, a personal record. A couple of times I was surprised to see 75! For the record, I'm not looking to go any faster and in fact like going slower so that I don't have to pass anyone. Tire ratio, track, airbags, 100k less miles or extra weight of hot water? I do seem to think that the 2005 truck by itself doesn't get blown around as much at highway speeds. I'm discounting the high mileage because the wind was always noticeable in the 2002 when it was blowing hard and I was cruising down the highway. Thanks.
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I would think lowering the front of the trailer had the biggest affect on your improvement.
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I think it's hard to tell. A few parameters have changed but the most significant that I can see at a quick look is the 3" track change = more stability. Whatever the reasons, enjoy the improvements. See ya on the road sometime.
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Leveling the trailer effectively shifts weight away from the back to the front, always a stabilizing factor. Less wind working the trailer's lower and more streamlined profile.

The newer truck is more stable, a huge difference. The wider track. Lower profile tires do not have the lateral movement (you could actually improve this with stiffer sidewall XL rated tires). The lower mileage probably gives a less worn, tighter suspension laterally, very significant.
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I would think lowering the front of the trailer had the biggest affect on your improvement.

The trailer nose was actually higher with the 2005. I have since gotten it lower and level again by lowering the hitch head.
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Think about over 65 mph with the high profile, short wheelbase, solid rear axle Sequoia makes me nervous though. Never know when something comes in front of you or pushes you into a sudden lane change.
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Old 04-21-2014, 01:39 PM   #7
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Little update. Just towed the Streamline with the hitch head 1.5" lower than last time. It now trails level, however, I didn't notice a significant change sway.
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How big is your trailer and what are you getting for mpg?
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I have a 28' streamline trailer that weighs just less than 6k lbs total packed. I tow with od off and get between 9&12mpg depending on speed, wind, and grade. I average it out to about 10 going 65/70.
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Why are you in such a hurry? 70-75 mph, 16 hour days...

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We have a 2005 tundra double cab 4x4 and just picked up a 05 safari 25'. So far I have only towed it home from Minnesota to Wisconsin. Our trucks are basically the same, so I was wondering how your truck pulls and if you feel you have a big enough truck.
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Why are you in such a hurry? 70-75 mph, 16 hour days...

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Well usually 65/70 and 8/10hrs a day until I get to the mountains or near my destinations and then I cut those in at least half. This past trip I was particularly motivated by wife, kids, work, and weather. Plus, I generally love the open road and find it relaxing.



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We have a 2005 tundra double cab 4x4 and just picked up a 05 safari 25'. So far I have only towed it home from Minnesota to Wisconsin. Our trucks are basically the same, so I was wondering how your truck pulls and if you feel you have a big enough truck.

Short answer is yes. This is my second sequoia and I love it. I looked for a double cab tundra and a Denali xl too. I couldn't find the double cab locally and the sequoia fits my needs better anyway. I watch my weight because I'm near capacity as I'm sure you will be too. I have changed my driving habits and expectations. I tend to drive slower than everyone else now and just let them deal with me. I also give myself a lot of braking room until someone cuts in front of me and then I give myself more room. I try to give a lot warning and indications that I'm merging or changing lanes. I try to make easy transitions. As far as towing with the truck, it handles and pulls and stops just fine. The temp gauge is in the same position for when the truck is towing with the ac on full driving across ok in triple digit heat or pulling a long grade like monarchs pass or just running around town with the kids w/o the trailer. I tow with the od off and with the rpms in the 3-4k range all day long, uphill, downhill, or flats. I tend to keep the rpms in the low 3ks though and downshift to keep in the power band. I also use a brake controller, wd hitch, and sway bar. I air up the tires to max. psi. Feel free to send a pm with any questions. Happy trailering and congrats on the new rig.
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