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Old 12-18-2006, 11:19 AM   #15
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Hey, its bill, long time no see. Yeah things towed fine when it was empty on just the ball, and then we started towing it loaded and it was swinging back and forth every now and again.

The mods made put more weight in the front, we replaced the gaucho with a booth seating arrangement, only the boothes are large storage compartments. We also removed one of the two twin beds in the back.

We have the weight distribution hitch set up now and we are adjusting it to fit as snug as possible to put more of the weight toward the cars front tires. We are planning on stopping by Camper's Inn in Merrimack which is on our way. Is there anything else that could/should be done to create a smoother less terrifying ride?
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:23 AM   #16
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KELLY,you have gotten a lot of good information-----good luck
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:26 AM   #17
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Ok. Mr. Mike's Travel Plaza (Citgo) I-93 Exit 11 ( 1.5 Mi N on NH 3A )

looks like its about 20 miles...in the wrong direction, but not too far. call 'em first to make sure my info is correct. gotta weigh that thing, or it'll kill you. no joke.
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:29 AM   #18
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.Harestream--I don't mean to sound sarcastic --but if you can't afford to hitch up correctly, how can you afford to repair your wrecked vehicles ???. My opinion mind you,--but if you don't have money to do it right you should stay home or go with out the trailer.---pieman
I agree. In these cases, it's better to err on the safe side.
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:30 AM   #19
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I do specifically remember someone mentioning to me just how surprisingly smoothly the trailer towed from its purchase location (wasn't it on the 'cape?) to the house in NH...on just a plain ball mount. That implys to me very strongly that the interior mods you've made have dangerously unbalanced the trailer. It is extremely important that 10-15% of the gross weight of the trailer is on the tongue. I'm betting that what you need is a scale, and some re-packing, rather than a sway control. not that I'd argue against a sway control...but that is "emergency" equipment; its there to counteract a sudden and/or unforseen situation. It should not be required just to "get down the road". any trailer...but particularly an airstream...should be stable with only the weight distribution hitch. if its not, then something is very badly out of whack.
not only that, but I'd be afraid that a friction sway control wouldn't be enough in this situation. if the trailer is constantly trying to wag around back there, the sc is not going to stop it.
This was where I was going to go with my response and I couldn't say it any better than Chuck. Anti-sway helps the TV & trailer move together in good, stable fashion during lateral maneuvers. You are reporting that it's swaying when you are trying to go straight down the road -- there's something here that antisway will not help if your tires and running gear are okay. Your TV-Airstream combo should tow well if close to the original layout and your added payload is balanced fore and aft. It will sway all on its own if remodeling or packing put significant additional weight behind the axles. Ideally 12-15% of the gross weight should be on the tongue; get below 10% and it is the most assured way to get the behavior you are seeing. Try throwing a paper airplane backwards -- your trailer would want to switch ends too if you've managed to unweight the tongue.

Fill the Suburban tires to the maximum recommended pressure whenever you tow.
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We are planning on stopping by Camper's Inn in Merrimack which is on our way. Is there anything else that could/should be done to create a smoother less terrifying ride?
find out if they've got a scale. (I don't know if RV dealers typically have them, or not...).
I trust that you've jacked up each side of the trailer and checked the wheels to make sure the brakes are properly adjusted, and that one of them isn't hanging up or something...Thats the only other thing I could think of that would make a formerly stable trailer suddenly morph into a swaying monster....
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We don't know all the loading particulars of your current setup. [on edit: deleted misleading suggestion.] Please be careful! This could be extremely dangerous if not resolved somehow -- keep us advised. Thanks!
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:45 AM   #22
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We don't know all the loading particulars of your current setup. But you could try to move all your cargo forward and see if that doesn't improve handling.
Sounds like with the remodel that they shifted a lot of weight to the tongue...
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The mods made put more weight in the front, we replaced the gaucho with a booth seating arrangement, only the boothes are large storage compartments. We also removed one of the two twin beds in the back.
Could a tongue that's too heavy be causing this?

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Sounds like with the remodel that they shifted a lot of weight to the tongue...
Could a tongue that's too heavy be causing this?

Shari
I wonder that, too. Also, the water tank is ~300lbs to play with forward of the axles...is it full, empty, or somewhere in between?
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Sounds like with the remodel that they shifted a lot of weight to the tongue...
Sorry, I just saw this too. Results from overloading the tongue? Guess I'd go with Chuck's suggestions on checking tongue weight with a scale (weigh wheels while unhitched -- remember to block) and making sure one brake isn't hanging up.

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Could a tongue that's too heavy be causing this?
I wouldn't think so but I just don't know. It should be pretty straightforward to get 12-15% of gross trailer weight onto the tongue -- after which you could rule this out. It would be interesting hearing back if the tongue weight never was over 15% of gross weight!
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Old 12-18-2006, 12:03 PM   #25
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The trailer is dry, no water in teh water tanks at all. In the remods we didnt really add too much, only took stuff away really. we arent even 100$ compete yet. Thought we'd leave and work on our last details from the road. Bill is out there now rearranging things based ont eh advice given. we'll go get it weighed and then bring it by campers inn for a final check. thanks all of you.
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Sorry, I just saw this too. Results from overloading the tongue?

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I wouldn't think so but I just don't know. It
My thought is, w/o weight distribution, it could be making the TV "do a wheelie" which could make the set-up feel squirrely.

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I hear you Shari -- my brother put too much weight in the trunk of an Opel Kadett and it sure got squirrely because steering input went south. That's why I'd like to hear the results when they do weigh!
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My thought is, w/o weight distribution, it could be making the TV "do a wheelie" which could make the set-up feel squirrely.

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...but it didn't feel that way before the mods were done. Hence my concern that something has changed...
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