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Old 07-14-2017, 03:54 PM   #239
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Sounds like you got fantastic use of that carbon footprint. Pat
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Old 07-15-2017, 06:30 PM   #240
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I still remember the Data General ad when they dipped their toes into the PC market: "Don't settle for a half-fast computer."

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Old 07-15-2017, 07:03 PM   #241
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I still remember the Data General ad when they dipped their toes into the PC market: "Don't settle for a half-fast computer."

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Data General was my first employer so I have many fond memories of their products. I worked on all of the Nova products as well as the Eclipse line. I guess I'm dating myself. I'm not used to hearing that anyone remembers the DG or Dec products which I also worked with (both PDP-11 and Vax-32 ). If you mention the names today you just get a blank stare. You might as well be talking about rotary dial phones.
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:47 AM   #242
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Weight distribution and anti sway equipment?

Heh, I used both Data General and PDP-series computers for many years. I also had a full set of Bell System Plant Practices--all about rotary dial phones. Heck, I still have the slide rule I carried in college in the 60's. Nothing unusual here... it was what we had at the time, and believe me we took full advantage of the technology.

Now, its just gotten smaller, faster, and cheaper. Progress is fun, but we do need to remember some of the history that got us here today. And don't forget the crew-cut, pocket protector carrying geeks like me that got us to the future, and are still pushing the 'bleeding edge' of technology.
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:05 AM   #243
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The only reason I use a wd hitch is cause my manual clearly states I should. I just wanna be able to say I followed the manufacturer recommendations if I ever need warranty work or an insurance claim that is related to components involved with towin. I just kinda assume that if it says I should be doin it in the owners manual, I should probly be doin it....

2017 RAM 2500 manual:

"WARNING: If the gross trailer weight is 5,000 lbs (2,267 kg) or more, it is recommended to use a weight-distributing hitch to ensure stable handling of your vehicle. If you use a standard weight-carrying hitch, you could lose control of your vehicle and cause a collision."

The manual does not mention a need for additional sway control.
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:13 PM   #244
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Getting back to the OP I was wondering if a Hensley/Pro Pride type hitch would work with an Airsafe? Would they even fit together? I have only read 1/2 way through this thread but I jumped ahead at page 7 as I saw no mention of this and the thread appears to be going sideways right around that page (no pun intended).
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:56 PM   #245
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Weight distribution and anti sway equipment?

Interesting thought. Does Airsafe work with other WD/anti-sway setups?

Don't see how you could pass the WD torque past the Airsafe part...
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Old 07-19-2017, 06:48 PM   #246
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As I slowly wade through this thread I am becoming more confused on which setup to ultimately choose when I have my own AS. We rented a TT for an experiment with a Blue Ox, towing with an F-350. It was a rough ride at times with the TT jerking the truck up and down over rough patches and RR tracks, so the Airsafe sounds nice. It was also a bit tense when big rigs would pass and push the trailer enough to make the F-350 wander, and being buffeted by a sudden cross wind was no fun either. Although I never exceeded 65 MPH I still felt like I was "on the edge" the whole time which led to being exhausted after 5-6 hours. I can't help but wonder how much different the Hensley design would be, and if it would beat up the trailer a lot.

I can drive my F-350 8 or 9 hours not towing without tiring but after just 5 or 6 hours towing I feel like somebody beat me up.
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As I slowly wade through this thread I am becoming more confused on which setup to ultimately choose when I have my own AS. We rented a TT for an experiment with a Blue Ox, towing with an F-350. It was a rough ride at times with the TT jerking the truck up and down over rough patches and RR tracks, so the Airsafe sounds nice. It was also a bit tense when big rigs would pass and push the trailer enough to make the F-350 wander, and being buffeted by a sudden cross wind was no fun either. Although I never exceeded 65 MPH I still felt like I was "on the edge" the whole time which led to being exhausted after 5-6 hours. I can't help but wonder how much different the Hensley design would be, and if it would beat up the trailer a lot.



I can drive my F-350 8 or 9 hours not towing without tiring but after just 5 or 6 hours towing I feel like somebody beat me up.

Wow. That's amazing that you had issues with a F350. Hopefully a Blue Ox Owner can chime in.

I can say my sample of one using a ProPride+Ram 2500 I can't recall ever being blown around by anything since Nov 2015. Towing is an absolute non issue. My expectation is that any good WD/Sway control hitch, properly set up, should be similar.
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It wasn't to the point of scary, just an uncomfortable and odd feeling to have an outside force steer your truck for a couple seconds. Keep in mind I am a total newbie towing a TT. Only had truck campers before and only towed boats. The Blue Ox was set up by the RV rental place and although from reading here I am sure they got it reasonably close, but not fine tuned. The trailer was basically empty although they did fill our fresh water tank with 40 gallons for some reason, and I am not sure where that tank was located, hopefully midship. My F-350 is only a 2002 but it is in excellent condition. Front end is new including ball joints and Red Head steering gear, steers like when it was new. Of course it does have the straight axle with leaf springs as they were made during that era.

Another thing I should mention is that I tend to be overly cautious in addition to researching everything to death.

Do you have any issues with the Ram 2500 "roughing up" the trailer?
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My biggest problem is sometimes I forget it's back there. Seriously that's one scary thing when you're like 'oh heck I've got a trailer!'

Also when I'm unhooked from the trailer and I'm in town and I start drivin and I take a glance at the rearview mirror and.... the trailer's missin! I'm like 'oh criminy where the heck is the trailer?!' that's the worst one, takes me a good couple seconds to remember it's at the campsite. Gives me a dang heart attack.

Wait what were we talking about?
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Do you have any issues with the Ram 2500 "roughing up" the trailer?

If that was to me, then no, we don't have any issues wrt the trailer...but maybe I don't understand.
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I was bein serious in my post, even though I was also being funny. But in reality my Ram 2500 pulls the 25fb like it ain't even back there. No movement from cross wind, no movement from big rigs whizzin by and certainly not jerking the truck on bumps or rough road. Smooth as silk on a shoeshine!
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I was bein serious in my post, even though I was also being funny. But in reality my Ram 2500 pulls the 25fb like it ain't even back there. No movement from cross wind, no movement from big rigs whizzin by and certainly not jerking the truck on bumps or rough road. Smooth as silk on a shoeshine!
In case I missed it which hitch setup do you use? Maybe part of my ride is because of the stiff springs on the F-350. I wouldn't call it awful but you definitely know it's back there when on bumpy pavement.
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