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Old 09-10-2016, 09:23 AM   #29
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What is your tow vehicle?
How many washers are used for you ball adjustment?

With a 23 foot, you are really getting some odd torque to the outside pins. My 25 foot International being towed by a 2012 Tundra, until recently, wore on the inside of the 'L' brackets and not against the 'pins'. This is more likely an adjustment of your hitch than anything else.

Backing up and turning sharply while going forward or in reverse, should not have different consequences. My hitch setup from the dealership was OFF. My hitch ball was LOOSE.

I carry sockets and torque bar now on all trips. Nothing has come loose since then... so trust some other local Airstream owner with a similar setup as yours. Take no chances... I have a reference to a similar group of bent 'pins' on my Equalizer Slop Thread. It might do you some good to read that thread as many have commented.

Cheap Chinese metal? Come on. Do you believe that Chinese metal and Mexican metal is going to distort like this? I think it more how your hitch is fitted to your vehicle and trailer. I can pull my pins out while the trailer is attached to the tow vehicle with no effort at times.

Please let us know what solved your issue. You need to read some of the great Threads on this subject already existing. You need to describe how your Equalizer Hitch is set up. It could be as simple as that. Read the manual that comes with the hitch. If I can follow the instructions, anyone can...
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Old 09-10-2016, 09:25 AM   #30
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Those pins are steel. I have used Equalizer hitches on two trailers, one 6300# and one 9000# without ever bending a pin. The only way I can see the pins bending is from a tight turn in combination with improper mounting. The fact that the L-brackets moved on the frame is another clue.

Make sure you have the new design trailer brackets. Look at this parts breakdown:
http://www.equalizerhitch.com/pdf/EQ...own_6to14K.pdf

The L-bracket assembly is on the top right. Notice that the L-bracket (Item 10) is mounted to the link plates (Items 6 and 8) with two bolts and lock nuts. The old version has the L-bracket mounted to the outside link plate with a single square head bolt and had the potential on my old hitch to come loose. That could result in the whole arm assembly coming loose.

If you have the old style, I'd recommend you call Equalizer and they can tell you what you need to order to convert. If I remember correctly I changed the outside link plate but kept the old inside link plate when I converted.

Check your installation to be sure the brackets are placed at the proper distance from the head. If they are too close, the bars will be at a greater angle and could result in bending the pins. Follow the instructions when installing/tightening the link plates. The bolts must be tightened evenly to avoid bending the link plates. If the plates get bent they will not have maximum contact with the frame rails and may slip.

+1 on not trying to straighten the pins. As much as they have been bent I doubt you can straighten them without weakening them, if they are not weakened already.

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Old 09-10-2016, 09:31 AM   #31
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Thanks so much to all who have replied---very helpful! I am contacting equalizer, ordering new pins, checking installation, and doing a full lube job.
One thing puzzled me, tho: a couple of you mentioned "slop/play". I don't see how there can be any slop...when my bars are in place and the trailer ready to tow....those stabilizer bars, and the chunky L-shaped pins that hold them in place, are ferociously tight....nothing can budge until I raise the jack to unhitch.
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I inserted a wide and long steel shim on top of the 2" sleeve that inserts into the 2 1/2" hitch with my Equalizer 2" shank to 'fit'.

After two weeks on the road... the steel shim looked as if someone took a hammer to it and beat the hell out of it. That is why I looking forward to my 2 1/2 inch shank next week to replace my sloppy 2".

A Ford F250 owner had Ford replace his entire hitch as the loose shank had hammered it out of shape, and warranty replaced it.

When moving the play up and down and left to right when you insert the Equalizer... just that should probably convince you to spend the money for the larger shank. I am frugal... but never stupid.

PS... Just from memory, which is short. There were some Equalizer L brackets that had the hole for the pins too CLOSE. Maybe this is your problem. I believe this is on the same Thread I mentioned earlier. In that case... Equalizer owes you a REFUND and NEW PARTS.
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Old 09-10-2016, 12:28 PM   #32
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The tighter it is- the more washers and the higher the L-brackets- the less it will move or pop-


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My spring arms were bowed and the trailer was nose up, I think that's pretty tight. The spring arms were still 'banging' because of the free space between the arms and the L-pins and L-brackets. Everything is torqued, there's just a lot of space in that square L-bracket hole. The L-pin is very loose in there. I have 8 washers in the head
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Old 09-10-2016, 12:34 PM   #33
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There is still something amiss.
Maybe the ball height?
The trailer shouldn't be nose up.
A little nose down is better than nose up.
Nose up in and of itself can create sway.
Too much weight distribution?
Picking up the front of the trailer and the back of the truck too high?
Do you have the Sway Jacket Brackets?
Every single adjustment- hitch height, number of washers, height of L-brackets requires changing every other adjustment.


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There is still something amiss.
Maybe the ball height?
The trailer shouldn't be nose up.
A little nose down is better than nose up.
Nose up in and of itself can create sway.
Too much weight distribution?
Picking up the front of the trailer and the back of the truck too high?
Do you have the Sway Jacket Brackets?
Every single adjustment- hitch height, number of washers, height of L-brackets requires changing every other adjustment.


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Sorry, it WAS nose up and there was sway, so I dropped it back down and it's pretty level now. Hitch ball is at 17.5", recommended height in the owner's manual. I was just trying to make a point about the amount of stress on the spring arms and that even with that amount of stress they were still moving. Understand they aren't moving much, but they do move in the turns and when they do... BANG. Trailer loaded or not, they BANG.

I followed the instructions on the Equalizer site and owner's manual about measuring the TV front and rear heights. Everything is right where it's supposed to be and the rig is level, handles well on the road with cross winds, big rigs, everything. There's just play in the spring arms and they do go BANG
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Old 09-10-2016, 03:25 PM   #35
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Still scratching my head...
Have you lubed the hitch head and tightened weight bar sockets to 44 ft. lbs.?
Sway Jacket Brackets?
Seems like the weight bars should always be tight against the L-brackets.
Whenever mine gets noisy I clean it and grease it and it quiets back down.


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I torque the socket bolts to 40-45 lbs. I have the L-bracket jackets. I don't lube the spring arms because I have the jackets, but I do lube the spring arm sockets. Next time I go to the storage lot I'll take a picture and post.

It's only when I turn, never on the highway. It's not a problem, just a little extra noise. The spring loaded L-pins are nice, much easier to put on, and the jackets sure make it quieter without any grease.
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Everything seems just right by the description.
Maybe mine makes the same noise and I don't hear it.


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Probably because I have an SUV? I don't know, it's not as noticeable when the rear window is up. When it's down it scares the wife and people on the sidewalk move out of the way.
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4th time trying to post this video.

Hopefully, here is a video of the slop in the spring arm between the L-bracket and the L-pin. Even with the rear window up there is still a pretty good 'BANG' at low speed turns.
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My iOS device won't play the video because it was uploaded on Windows...


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Take 3 on this posting. I'm having a bad day trying to post stuff. The Internet gods laugh at me.

Here's the video in MP4 format. The other one has sound but no video, it's all blurry, although the original plays on my laptop. MP4 is better, will probably play on your machine.
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Still won't play on my iPhone.
All that shows is the name of the file.


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