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Old 08-21-2015, 10:49 PM   #99
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And how do you know it's not a diesel?
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Old 08-22-2015, 05:53 AM   #100
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ONce they adjust the PRoride in the bed of the truck that thing will ride level as can be.
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:47 AM   #101
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Woiw! What a discusion... For the record last year a made 26 000 km across the Usa whit a 27 foot Airstream whit a gas Grand Cherooke. I did all the montain you can do whit my combo. Everything went very weel. I boot my 30 foot last november. I pull it whit my truck work a F250 and I can say the Touareg andel much better the the F250. SO FOR THOSE SPECIALIST HOW SAY IT IS NOT GOOD, FILL FREE TO COME TO MONTREAL AND TRY IT WHIT ME. AFTER THAT WE WILL TALK.. Like I say, when i pull my trailer i almost not notice is in the back. The Touareg is a exceptional suv for towing. I add and drive lost of truck i my live, and the touareg for me is the most well built suv.. Like I said sorry for my english....
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You missed the point. The conversation turned into exceeding or not exceeding tow limits stated by TV manufacturers.
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:05 AM   #103
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I work for porsche, I can let you know the cayenne diesel specs based on a very base (read NO option) cayenne diesel are 7,716 max trailer weight, 14,043 gcvw, 716 tongue weight, all up to 12% grade and 60 mph with a single 165lb occupant , all accessories (navigation, radio, seats, basically everything we like in america) and additional occupants will drop these weights correspondingly, on a personal note I do not condone many of the weights I see placed behind these vehicles on here. Hope this helps
This is from the Horse's Mouth. That weight describes a medium size trailer.
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You missed the point. The conversation turned into exceeding or not exceeding tow limits stated by TV manufacturers.
And you missed the point. Nobody asked you to turn the conversation. If you want to talk about exceeding tow limits, start your own thread. Don't hijack someone else's thread and use it as your soap box.
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Sorry ... the first responder got the best of me. I'm actually very lazy and hate cleaning up messes. So when I read about someone towing a trailer that exceeds the TV specifications and others thinking it's a good idea I selfishly pointed it out.
If you prefer, in the future if I come across any RV accidents in my travels, I'll check to see if limits were exceeded, ask the person if they knew they exceeded the limits (assuming they are conscious), and whether or not they thought it was a good idea before doing the life saving stuff, calling 911 for backup, etc. how's that sound?
Such an interesting family ...
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And you missed the point. Nobody asked you to turn the conversation. If you want to talk about exceeding tow limits, start your own thread. Don't hijack someone else's thread and use it as your soap box.

This is a forum and people will express their opinions, and not all opinions are validations. If you want just validations/praise, an online forum is not the best medium. Also, I did not see OP saying "I don't want any feedback on the suitability of my combo".
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LOL, read this whole thread...great discussion! Just need one clarification, since exceeding mfg specs is ok up to a point, exactly what in terms of pounds and trailer dimensions and weight dustribution is the upper safe limit under all reasonably foreseeable dynamic conditions (we all know unforeseen things never happen anyway)....being an engineer (PE)and in the market for a new trailer it sorta makes me wonder exactly where all the "I dun it for years" experts say the envelope finally comes apart.....are mfg spec limits based on 3 sigma normal distribution or maybe 2 sigma possion maybe erlang test data, or did they just say "oh shucks Bill, just top Ford's numbers, nobody really pays any attention to math, physics, and engineering anyway".... I never realized the max take off and landing specs for aircraft are just general guidelines for those of a cowardly risk adverse nature, as are vehicle seat belts and air bags...of which I have never needed either...again LOL and happy camping to all, and to all a good night.
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LOL, read this whole thread...great discussion! Just need one clarification, since exceeding mfg specs is ok up to a point, exactly what in terms of pounds and trailer dimensions and weight dustribution is the upper safe limit under all reasonably foreseeable dynamic conditions (we all know unforeseen things never happen anyway)....being an engineer (PE)and in the market for a new trailer it sorta makes me wonder exactly where all the "I dun it for years" experts say the envelope finally comes apart.....are mfg spec limits based on 3 sigma normal distribution or maybe 2 sigma possion maybe erlang test data, or did they just say "oh shucks Bill, just top Ford's numbers, nobody really pays any attention to math, physics, and engineering anyway".... I never realized the max take off and landing specs for aircraft are just general guidelines for those of a cowardly risk adverse nature, as are vehicle seat belts and air bags...of which I have never needed either...again LOL and happy camping to all, and to all a good night.
All of which goes back to the very basics that I often suggest on this and other forums: "the first thing the new user needs to answer is, are you one who thinks the manufacturer stated numbers are real values to stay within, or are you one who believes you know enough about all the processes involved to say, aw, those are just guidelines that I can pick and choose to stay within, or ignore"

Once you answer that question, then you can start choosing a tow vehicle. It probably is pretty obvious at this point in the game that if you believe you can fudge the numbers to suit your own belief system, then you have many more potential vehicles from which to choose.
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Tiny knows it's not all about trailer weight and vehicle tow ratings. Some vehicles and some trailers are safer than others by design. It's difficult to fit all this into a ratings chart, so they don't.

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Geo, the trouble with ratings alone allows us to choose a very unstable tow vehicle and travel trailer combination. Let's study the question and try to learn something.

Rostam, I would credit FLW but he copied it from several others in various forms. It just goes against the grain of conventional thinking and I like that, allows us to learn something.
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