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Old 01-05-2013, 04:29 PM   #1
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Using a 4Runner to tow a Flying Cloud 23FB

Hi,

Does anyone have experience towing a Flying Cloud 23 FB (2010 or above) with a Toyota 4Runner SR 5 v6 with 270 HP. I know it's a over the 5000pd GVW, but I really like the floor plan of the 23FB and was wondering if it was still towable with my 2012 4Runner. I may have to step down to the Sport.

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Old 01-05-2013, 07:51 PM   #2
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I'm sure that others will offer their opinions, but I think you need a bigger tow vehicle.

You might be able to pull it, but I would be concerned about emergency handling and stopping, especially on grades. Also, with Toyota recommending 5,000 pounds max, and the Airstream mostly likely weighing closer to 6,000 pounds, I would be seriously concerned about safety.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:30 PM   #3
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I'm sure that others will offer their opinions, but I think you need a bigger tow vehicle.

You might be able to pull it, but I would be concerned about emergency handling and stopping, especially on grades. Also, with Toyota recommending 5,000 pounds max, and the Airstream mostly likely weighing closer to 6,000 pounds, I would be seriously concerned about safety.
I agree with Phoenix. How badly do you want the 23 FB? If you just have to have it I would upgrade your TV to something like the Toyota Sequiha(sp) or the new Dodge SUV with the 5.7L hemi; I think it may have the new 8 speed tranny now. Fortunately Toyotas have outstanding resale value.

If you don't want to do that, then go with the sport. Decisions, decisions.

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Old 02-12-2013, 09:52 PM   #4
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23FC w 4Runner

Your question was posted a month ago so not sure if you have already resolved. I have a 2011 4Runner TE with KDSS suspension option and we pull a 2012 FC 23 Front Sofa unit. Happy to discuss with you direct, so feel free to email me and we can go from there. markg.xc@gmail.com
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:08 AM   #5
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What about a 4Runner with the 4.7L 2wd 4.7L V8 with WDH?

I currently tow a 2009 17' Casita SD that has a hitch weight of 420lbs. I don't use a WDH and only a friction anti sway bar. No issues with sway even in strong cross winds. If I step up to a 23fb and WDH it should work well enough for a few years. Hard to buy a used AS and new/used tow vehicle in the same year.

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Old 02-15-2013, 02:11 PM   #6
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Looks like the only issue I see with my 2005 4Runner is the payload. The door label says I only have 950lbs of payload including passengers and cargo. Even with my Casita I'm at payload or close to it.

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The older 4 Runners had very poor reviews when used as TV's. Perhaps the newer ones are better???
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When I Google for online specs for my 2005 and a 2011 (no 4.7L offered) the various sites like cars.com, Motor Trend etc show my 4Runner has a 1200 lb payload and the 2011 has a 1600 lb payload. They have the GVWR that matches my GVWR on my door label. Its just the payload on the label not matching. I'd prefer to believe the label on my car. Doesn't make sense to design a vehicle with a 7300lb rating to only really be able to handle a Casita (3500lbs) due to low payload.

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Thanks for all the replies! I'm considering upgrading to the Tundra Crew Max, but dang, I'd hate to lose all that money having just bought the 4Runner in October...
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Thanks for all the replies! I'm considering upgrading to the Tundra Crew Max, but dang, I'd hate to lose all that money having just bought the 4Runner in October...
You've got the trailer and the truck already, have you tried them? A good w.d hitch with sway control, XL tires on the 4-Runner, and sensible driving can go a long way toward a successful combination.

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Doug is right. With a a few mods you may get it to work fine. Just deal with the shortcomings.

The 2012 model may be fine as it stands. You need to find out before making a decision. Have a look at posts from forum member "Andrew T". You can learn a lot.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:41 AM   #12
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Hi Doug and Road Runner -

We are having a 6K equalizer installed w ball and shank so I'm hoping that it will do the trick. We are also going to be picking it up from Airstream of Spokane the first weekend of March so we'll see how she goes over the pass that weekend. I figure if I take it slow and put the 4Runner in a low gear going up and going down, I should be okay. I'll keep you posted weather permitting! Thanks, again!
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You also need a good brake controller installed.

Yes, use the transmission up and down. Keep those downhill speeds very low until you get accustomed to the rig, it's hard to lose control of a slow-moving vehicle.

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Old 02-16-2013, 07:30 PM   #14
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TS - I have the 2011 FC23FB. I was surprised by the actual tongue weight when I had the opportunity to use a good set of automotive scales. My actual tongue weight is 785 lbs. with propane and water tanks full, waste tanks empty. Total trailer is 5673 lbs. I use a 10K Equalizer with my Jeep GC Diesel, and have been very satisfied.
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