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Old 12-02-2012, 10:33 PM   #43
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Food for thought, the Dodge is an Italian car nowadays. Fiat starting controlling them a while back.

Ok, you got me. I thought about this comment and don't know what it has to do with whether the Dodge Ram is a good truck or not. Is being Italian owned and managed a good thing or not? The Germans certainly couldn't turn Dodge around.

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Old 12-03-2012, 06:25 AM   #44
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Half-ton trucks are a long way from where they were not so long ago. And a 34' A/S can be pulled successfully by them . . as well as other types of vehicles. A Tundra, well set-up, should have no problems whatsoever.

The only reason to buy a pickup to pull this trailer type is the amount of junk some of us like to carry along (full-timers of several descriptions).

If a pickup is an otherwise good solo choice (defined, to be accurate, as having IRS deductible miles as otherwise an open trailer hitched to a vehicle can do all or more than a pickup), then the brand is not nearly so important except what the owner perceives it to be.

Get the one you want. The TT was the important choice for this combination.


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Old 12-04-2012, 01:24 PM   #45
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New guy and first post for what it's worth ...

I'm pulling a 25' rb with a '11 Tundra Crew-cab 5.7 / tow package and getting 12mpg @ 65mph /1900rpm all day every day without any issues. This is my second Tundra and I've experienced zero problems over the last five years of ownership.

Diesels and 3/4 tons and up have their place in the pecking order of things, but the Tundra drives and rides smooth and is very quiet which adds to it's utility for long range pulling in my book. Much less wear on the senses and ol'body after a long day in the saddle.

Two cents and all it's worth ...
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:33 PM   #46
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How bout a 6-cylinder Tundra?

I'm new to the board and just bought my second Airstream last week, a 1999 23' beauty. I drive a 2006 Tundra 6 cyl extra-cab auto. I have two questions...
1.Is this enough truck to handle this trailer ?
2.How can you tell if a truck has a tow package? (mine has a factory hitch and I added electric brake controller and the round electrical plug.)
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:40 PM   #47
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I think the 2006 was the last year of the older Tundra body style. I am also assuming that you have the 4.0L V6 which was the same engine I had in my last 4Runner. It was a great engine and pulled my 21 foot hybrid without out an issue. I think the GVW for the hybrid was very close to 5000 pounds.

The specs I have in my 2007 Tundra brochure says the 4.0L has 236 hp and 266 lb-ft of torque. My 5.7 has 381 and 401 respectively. The 2007 tundra lists a tow rating of 5000 lbs against 10,000 for the 5.7. They do not list a tow package for the V6.

If you have a tow package look for the transmission cooler which should be sitting just in front of your radiator. I had one on my 2004 4Runner. It came with the cooler, the hitch and was wired to accept both the flat 4 pronged plug as well as the round 7 pin plug.

I would guess that you will be at your upper limit if this data is correct.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:08 PM   #48
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Rain', look on the inside of the wardrobe door for specs on trailer weight. That will help you understand how much it weighs unloaded and loaded. My list of weights for Airstreams does not show a '99 23'. The 2000 23' Safari was 4,700 lbs. dry, 6,300 GVWR and 500 lbs. hitch weight. If the '99 is the same, you are going to have some issues.

The V6 Toyota engine is a very good engine—we have it in our '06 4Runner. Check your owner's manual to see how much payload the Tundra has. Count about 2/3 of tongue weight against that plus humans, dogs, stuff in the truck.

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Old 01-19-2013, 07:13 PM   #49
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Late to this party but thought I might chime in. You said you are pulling 27' Classic. Correct me if I am wrong but i do believe it weighs about 2,200 lbs. more than my 27FB Safari. This should be a consideration also. If I am too late, I would like to know where you landed and how it's working out for you.

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Old 01-23-2013, 09:14 PM   #50
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What about payload capacity on the Tundra's? With around 1300-1400 payload capacity depending on model Tundra and 770 tongue weight on the 27, there is not a lot of room left for people, hitch and other cargo. This is even tighter then what im looking at with F150's.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:02 PM   #51
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HeadWest, this is the issue that I refer to every time I post about my Tundra. My 2008 5.7 is set up to tow. It has plenty of power, a strong transmission, great brakes and all the electronic tow/haul stuff you would ever need. It will pull a 27 ft. Airstream without question. What it WON'T do is pull it and allow you to pile in the people, pets, firewood, 4 wheelers, generators and all that other stuff many like to bring along.

It is a half ton and will be limited by payload before anything else. People focus on the weight of their trailers and compare them to the "tow rating" for the truck and figure they are good to go.

You said something about a payload capacity of 1400 pounds. The wife and I come in a tad under 300 lbs (total), we put our gear in the trailer and load a Honda generator in the back, a couple of bikes, some wood if we are headed into the mountains and some odds and ends. We are under the capacity of this truck but not by much. There have been times when we bring the grandkids and some extra stuff but still feel safe.

Before you decide on a TV look close at how you camp and what you take with you. I really like my Tundra because it fits our style nicely.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:44 PM   #52
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Found my dream truck. Almost! Wanted a long bed 4x2 Double Cab Tundra. Found a Double Cab 2008 Tundra, 5.7L, Standard Bed with Tow package 4x2.
Only has 9100 miles on it. Bought it!
It will replace my '98 Dodge 2500 4x2 Club Cab with a long box.
Looking forward to hitting the road this summer.
We don't carry a lot of stuff. 2 people, one dog, 14 gallons of water, BBQ, trailer spare and some tools.
Since the standard bed has more load carrying capacity than the long bed. We have room to spare.
Also bought an Andersen WD hitch. Never towed using a WD hitch in my 47 years of trailer towing. Hope I can tell the difference.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:04 PM   #53
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We really liked our F150's triton engine ... but towing with an automatic trans, it could never decide which gear (even with the OD locked out) it wanted while we play in the Rockies AND we yearned for the ease of pulling with a diesel. As our payload changed (aerial rpv photog helo in the truck bed), so did our ability to attack the mountain passes. So, that mandated a 3/4 T as none of the manufacturers build a 1/2 T with a diesel. The diesel is FANTASTIC as a TV and all the various trailers pretty much disappear behind us while towing... especially uphill. When you assess the suggestions ask if the folks offering an opinion have actual experience WITH BOTH the gas and diesel TVs... otherwise, it is moot and bias is introduced into the argument. There are al lot of great choices out there for TV, but there are also many variables to consider before choosing.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:32 AM   #54
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When you assess the suggestions ask if the folks offering an opinion have actual experience WITH BOTH the gas and diesel TVs... otherwise, it is moot and bias is introduced into the argument.
I think everyone (except me) is biased. Some people have had diesel and went back to gas too.

When you read posts on Forums, most every answer is subjective and anecdotal and you have to sort through them. If someone has a unbiased study to report of whatever is the topic, then those posts may be objective. Plenty of studies are biased too.

Mefly2, I'm glad you have the truck that works for you. I think the problem with your previous truck may have been the transmission and not necessarily the engine. If the transmission was computer controlled, it should have been programmed to avoid gear searching. As I've written before, our gas truck does not search for gears and pulls effortlessly over the Rockies. We can leave everyone who is towing behind us too if we want to get 3 mpg. So we go a bit slower and get there a couple of minutes later. Everyone has different needs and it appears your reason for a 3/4 ton was payload—a good point since 1/2 ton trucks have payload limits which for some people are insurmountable. Like you say there are "many variables to consider before choosing".

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Old 02-02-2013, 11:49 AM   #55
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So Gene, does this mean the Crawford Chamber of Commerce has asked you to cease and desist so you had to change your Forums handle? Or is this in anticipation of becoming SantaFeGene?

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Old 02-02-2013, 12:52 PM   #56
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Dana, I doubt the local CofC knows I exist. Anyway, shorter names are cool and easier to type. We decided we were getting priced out of the Santa Fe market (also less crime and traffic). We are looking 75 miles west of here.


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