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Old 03-05-2013, 09:16 AM   #29
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sway is more of the issue with a 19 footer. I would keep my speed down and definately have a brake controller in the tow vehicle. if things start sway too much don't touch you TV brakes, use the controller first.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:28 PM   #30
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I don't know much about weight distribution hitches but I recall an old photo (which I can't find now) showing an RV trailer attached to a car with a distribution hitch. The rear tires had been removed from the car and its rear end was suspended off the ground so that the RV/TV formed a single truss with all the weight now divided between the front axle of the car and the single axle of the trailer. Of course this was an extreme demonstration and would not be functional with rear-wheel drive. But the physics intrigued me. While half the car's former rear axle weight was now sent to its front axle (good) the other half was sent to the trailer's axle (not so good, especially for the tires).
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:46 PM   #31
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looks like I'll be picking up a 2012 airstream 19 this weekend - wooo hooo

be towing it back without WD or SC for now and will be taking it easy, taking a buddy along who tows all the time
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:30 PM   #32
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towing without a weight distribution /sway control

Greetings DonS!

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I don't know much about weight distribution hitches but I recall an old photo (which I can't find now) showing an RV trailer attached to a car with a distribution hitch. The rear tires had been removed from the car and its rear end was suspended off the ground so that the RV/TV formed a single truss with all the weight now divided between the front axle of the car and the single axle of the trailer. Of course this was an extreme demonstration and would not be functional with rear-wheel drive. But the physics intrigued me. While half the car's former rear axle weight was now sent to its front axle (good) the other half was sent to the trailer's axle (not so good, especially for the tires).
The image below may be one that you are referencing. There is also another image from either late 1960s or early 1970s that featured an Oldsmobile Toronado in a similar setting:



I can still remember when the above first appeared with the 1980 Chevrolet Citation . . . something had to be overloaded . . . with the 1960s-1970s Eldorado/Tornado the ball joints had short lifespans with just the weight of the car by itself without trailer towing of any kind (at least my family felt that we were doing well to get 70,000 miles out of a set of ball joints on our Toronado).

Kevin

P.S.: As an obvious advertising ploy, I am almost surprised that it didn't contain the phrase . . . Please don't try this at home . . .
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Old 03-07-2013, 06:46 PM   #33
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The biggest cause of trailer sway is with the trailer loaded tail-heavy.

Make sure your tires are aired properly and the brakes work on it.

Put something heavy in the front of the trailer (inside). As long as it's nose heavy, you will greatly reduce the chance of sway.

Where is the freshwater tank on this model? Is it forward of the axles? If so, fill it completely up. Put your blacksmith tools up against the front wall. Seriously, load it as nose heavy as you can.

Keep your speed reasonable and you should be fine.

I towed my 34 footer home 600 miles on just the ball. Never swayed a bit. But it is a triple axle and they do naturally want to track straight. A single axle is the most prone to sway.

Keep her nose heavy, take it easy, and you should be fine.

When you get it home, then get yourself a good weight distributing antisway rig. I like the Equal-I-Zer. Many others like the Reese Dual Cam. Both are great. If you want to up the ante, get a ProPride or Henseley.

Just always remember, even with an antisway hitch, a nose heavy trailer is always naturally stable. A tail heavy one is always wanting to wreck you.

I saw a guy with a bobcat on a 16' flatbed, but he had the bobcat clear at the back of the trailer. I was beside him and it started oscillating badly. I nailed the gas and got ahead of him, just as the trailer flipped around nearly 180 degrees, then went up, and it rolled the truck and trailer to the right, up and over the guard rail! I'd never seen anything like it...it was worse than the classic trailer sway videos you see on youtube. The man got out unhurt, but it trashed his pickup and the bobcat wasn't in very good shape either. He had it tail heavy.

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The image below may be one that you are referencing. There is also another image from either late 1960s or early 1970s that featured an Oldsmobile Toronado in a similar setting:



I can still remember when the above first appeared with the 1980 Chevrolet Citation . . . something had to be overloaded . . . with the 1960s-1970s Eldorado/Tornado the ball joints had short lifespans with just the weight of the car by itself without trailer towing of any kind (at least my family felt that we were doing well to get 70,000 miles out of a set of ball joints on our Toronado).

Kevin

P.S.: As an obvious advertising ploy, I am almost surprised that it didn't contain the phrase . . . Please don't try this at home . . .
That warning is actually in the Reese installation instructions:
"FRONT-WHEEL-DRIVE VEHICLES: DO NOT ATTEMPT TO HOOK-UP OR TOW WITH REAR WHEELS OF TOWING VEHICLE REMOVED. Severe structural damage to towing vehicle, hitch, and trailer may result. A towing vehicle/trailer combination cannot be controlled adequately unless the towing vehicle's rear wheels are carrying their share of the load."
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He owner said the same thing keep it nose heavy - the freshwater tank is in front of the axle and is full
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:04 PM   #36
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trip report:

Towed our (new to us) 2012 Airstream 19 from Portland OR back to Puyallup WA, about 140 miles. Luckily my buddy brought a spare hitch with about a 2 inch drop because the one I had was way too high. Hooked up and tested the brake controller and off we went, kept speeds around 50mph until I got comfortable towing and using the trailer brakes. Got speeds up to 70 mph with no swaying at all and slowed using the brake controller going down some grades. Tows great at 60-65.

Will be looking into WD and SC next week some time
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:53 AM   #38
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Nice looking trailer! It is identical to my 2009 CCD. And your TV (Silverado) is virtually the same as my F150. Towing from Portland to Puyallup is not much of a test, except for patience. I don't use WD/SC and never felt the need for it, but you will have an extra measure of insurance with it. I just got back from Arizona (2600 mile round trip) without incident. Last year I did the California coastal highway (CA 1). Now that is a challenge. I had to pay more attention to my brakes than anything (oh, except for the cliff over my shoulder). Enjoy!
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