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Old 03-23-2016, 11:47 PM   #113
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You know that best thing I like about my 2008 Ford F-250..it's paid for!

Hi, and so is my 2014 F-150; I made three monthly payments to qualify for another $1,000.00 discount.
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Old 03-23-2016, 11:57 PM   #114
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Nine pages! Sheesh. I didn't read past the first one.

Al I can say is... PAYLOAD!!! Any current model 1/2 ton truck will easily pull an Airstream. You need to consider each truck's payload, along with other factors, and compare that payload (cargo capacity) to your own specific needs! This is a vital component in vehicle selection.

Lastly, have a look at the 2016 GMC Sierra and Chevy Silverado models... they are superb trucks and would be my top choice over Ford and Dodge.

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Old 03-24-2016, 01:33 AM   #115
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Amen to that.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:32 AM   #116
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Hi, Bold;

(1.) I purposely chose the XLT as the model with the most bang for the buck, so to speak. My Lincoln has most of the toys that I didn't want or need in a tow vehicle. I hate moon roofs and didn't want leather seats this time. I'm not disabled so I can slide and fold my mirrors by hand. Are the fancier trucks nice? Yes. My XLT has all that I need /want, and more. I bought my truck mainly for towing. The five passenger Platinum could easily be maxed out, payload wise, with five passengers and a completely empty bed.

(2.) The most basic of trucks would have the smallest and least powerful engine so they will not "always have the greatest payload."
Ok; I thought you ended up with the Platinum that's why I was confused with the statements. That all makes sense now.
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Hi, as I stated before, when I was looking for a new F-150 there was a Limited or Platinum on the show room floor that had a payload of 1,065 lbs. My Safari has a tongue weight of 900 lbs so that would not even leave enough payload for me as the driver yet alone anyone or anything else. In my searches I have come up with a 2016 Ram Laramie crew cab Ecodiesel with 3:92 gears having 1,000 to 1,100 lbs payload. This would not work for me, with the trailer that I own.


My F-150 has a payload of 1,745 lbs. After my 900 lb tongue weight is deducted I have 845 lbs for two people, one little dog, and stuff in the bed of my truck.
You know Bob, you can get a RAM 1500 Quad Cab Tradesman Hemi with a payload of 1,716lbs and max towing of 10,650lbs. Just to compare a stripped down F-150 XLT like you have to a stripped down Ram Tradesman. I know you don't like diesel, so there is no point in quoting the RAM Ecodiesel numbers.
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Old 03-25-2016, 12:46 AM   #118
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(1.) You know Bob, you can get a RAM 1500 Quad Cab Tradesman Hemi with a payload of 1,716lbs and max towing of 10,650lbs.

(2.) Just to compare a stripped down F-150 XLT like you have to a stripped down Ram Tradesman.

(3.) I know you don't like diesel, so there is no point in quoting the RAM Ecodiesel numbers.
Hi, Top;

(1.) Yes, I do know that, but that wasn't questioned.

(2.) I don't consider my XLT as a stripped down truck. The XL model is the lowest. My truck has all of the good working stuff, but much less of the electronic toys.

(3.) I have never been a diesel fan; And I have never made that a secret. The point of posting Ecodiesel numbers is because people were asking for them, and other than you posting a link, this question was avoided.
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Old 03-25-2016, 01:14 AM   #119
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(1.) If you can deal with a lighter pay load, the RAM 1500 ecodiesel is a great choice.

(2.) Another Ram 1500 Ecodiesel here. Great match for a mid-size Airstream, great ride for us and our Airstream, and all the payload we ever needed

(3.) We did the research on payload, experimented with the driving and braking effects of full loads with and without the Airstream

(4.) Ram 1500 Ecodiesel would be a very well matched combination for our 25' Flying Cloud, a quality w.d. hitch setup, with all the carrying capacity we'll ever need.

(5.) Just curious what the published payload is for your new Ram? Also what options did you get?


(6.) Here are my stickers. No dancing. [1,072 lbs]

(7.) We've gone through the payload rating business and can't make much sense of it, too many variables.

(8.) There is no point in quoting the RAM Ecodiesel numbers.

Hi, this is why.
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(1.) If you can deal with a lighter pay load, the RAM 1500 ecodiesel is a great choice.

(2.) Another Ram 1500 Ecodiesel here. Great match for a mid-size Airstream, great ride for us and our Airstream, and all the payload we ever needed

(3.) We did the research on payload, experimented with the driving and braking effects of full loads with and without the Airstream

(4.) Ram 1500 Ecodiesel would be a very well matched combination for our 25' Flying Cloud, a quality w.d. hitch setup, with all the carrying capacity we'll ever need.

(5.) Just curious what the published payload is for your new Ram? Also what options did you get?


(6.) Here are my stickers. No dancing. [1,072 lbs]

(7.) We've gone through the payload rating business and can't make much sense of it, too many variables.

(8.) There is no point in quoting the RAM Ecodiesel numbers.

Hi, this is why.
Max payload on a 2016 Ram 1500 crew cab with Ecodiesel 4X4 is just over 1100 lbs. 25FB tongue weighs 836 before adding in the hitch work. 1000 lbs when all is said and done. There is almost no more capacity left.
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Our 2013 25FB International Serenity had the Airstream literature tongue weight of 833 pounds. When I picked the unit up at the dealership, it had a full water tank, full propane tanks, dealer added street and rear awnings, dealer installed 155 watt solar panel on the roof and a Hensley Arrow hitch installed. The Sherline scale reported the tongue weight as 1,150, pounds.

This would require a pickup with nearly 1,375 pounds of real payload capacity just for me to drive the rig home alone. (I weigh more than the virtually non-existent 150 pound driver often mentioned) Adding my wife to the vehicle and we would need just over 1,500 pounds of real payload.

So one trying to make a tow vehicle purchase decision or can they use their existing vehicle based upon the Airstream literature numbers could acquire or have an underrated tow vehicle for the job.

When I drove the 25FB home from the dealership and crossed the CAT scales, the 2007 Mercedes ML320 CDI diesel axles and load were within specifications. However, after loading the rig for camping, there was an overloaded situation that required a larger capacity tow vehicle. Fortunately, I went large enough with the Ram 2500HD Cummins that it could also tow the 31' Classic which we acquired a few months later.

When camping ready, our existing 2007 Mercedes numbers work out nicely with the heavily modified 2015 23D with Hensley Arrow hitch, all our stuff in both the car and the trailer and food. We also have a Hensley stinger for the Ram left over from towing the 25FB that would also work to tow the 23D.
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Yes, and the Ford is a proven performer as is evident by the F-150 still after all these many years, the number one vehicle purchased in North America. When you drive around town, look at the ratio of business and commercial enterprises that are using the F-150. If the F-150 wasn't the consistent performer that it is, then the numbers would change. Plus Ford doesn't owe the public money from the bail out.
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Ford may not have taken bailout money, but they sure are fond of investing heavily in Mexico.
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BTW, the Feds made a tidy little profit with their bailout of GM.

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Yes, and the Ford is a proven performer as is evident by the F-150 still after all these many years, the number one vehicle purchased in North America. When you drive around town, look at the ratio of business and commercial enterprises that are using the F-150. If the F-150 wasn't the consistent performer that it is, then the numbers would change. Plus Ford doesn't owe the public money from the bail out.
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