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Old 03-21-2016, 06:19 PM   #71
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Old 03-21-2016, 09:38 PM   #72
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We just returned from our very first outing with our new-to-us 2014 International Serenity 23D. The new 2015 Ford 3.5 EcoBoost with Max Tow package performed fantastically. Even driving through the Texas Hill Country, we could easily accelerate up any hill we encountered. The 145" wheelbase was a great match with the twenty-three footer. The Reese "SC" hitch with 800 pound spring bars seems to be a perfect set-up. Gas mileage was just over 13.5 towing.

While out, we had the [connected] truck and trailer weighed. The truck was 5,680 pounds and the trailer 4,680 pounds. We were well under our "door sticker" GVWR of 6,800 pounds.

Obviously, the F150 works for us.

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Old 03-21-2016, 09:59 PM   #73
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The F-150 is THE most popular vehicle, not just trucks, sold in America. There is a reason for this and it all boils down to personal preference. Another reason for me is that GM and Dodge still owe the Government from the bailout, but that's another story.
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:15 PM   #74
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I'm sure Ford's long-standing history of inflating sales numbers to make that claim with fleet sales has nothing to do with it: http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...-inflated.aspx

Also all the TARP money has been repaid. Stop the spin.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...all-loans-it-/

http://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/ed...-yes-they-did/
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:41 PM   #75
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Hi from AZ. . . remember, opinions are like. . . noses, everybody has one. I know Bold loves his Dodge, Mr Hony loves his Tundra, I'm very happy with my Ford. . . no spin, you're writing the check, you buy what suits you, yes ? Good luck, Craig
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Old 03-21-2016, 11:42 PM   #76
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DO NOT RELY SOLEY ON TOWING CAPACITY. I did and bought a new 2015 Tundra Limited Crew Max 4X4. It has approx the same payload as F150 or RAM 1500. The tongue weight on my 25FB is 836, but add in the hitch-work/WD and now Im at 1000 lbs. Add my 200 lb Snugtop shell and two adults sitting in front and I am already over both GVWR by almost 500 lbs and GAWR by over 130 lbs. I can't put anything in the bed of my truck in order to keep the weight down. A RAM 2500 4X4 Mega Cab 6.4 Hemi will give me 2800 lbs of payload (the one I looked at). I hope this helps. I wish my local Airstream dealer had considered more than towing capacity before highly recommending this track to me.
These numbers would look completely different with a properly set up weight distribution hitch, and actually weighed at a scale. A bed shell is not a good choice if your trying to manage truck weights for towing a mid-size Airstream, a tonneau will do.

Trying to justify a different truck it's not hard to find a reason. But your 1/2 ton Tundra is favorite among hundreds of Airstreamers with larger Airstreams than yours. It will work well out of the box, but a properly set up w.d. hitch, and in some cases adjusting loads in truck and/or Airstream, can make it exceptional.

A larger truck will not ride, handle, or maneuver as well, there are trade-offs. Learn to adjust and manage your loads, and get a quality w.d. hitch set up properly.
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I'm sure Ford's long-standing history of inflating sales numbers to make that claim with fleet sales has nothing to do with it: http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...-inflated.aspx
Hi, a sell is a sell; And Ford is not the only one counting fleet sales. And fleet sales are discounted? I didn't pay list for my Ford. Did you pay list for your Dodge?
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Old 03-22-2016, 01:47 AM   #79
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I guess we knew that, just trying to help others who might be reading the thread. The half-tons are good matches for Airstream, not always for the people who use them.

Especially good if they already own one and are concerned about budget.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:11 AM   #80
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Hi, a sell is a sell; And Ford is not the only one counting fleet sales. And fleet sales are discounted? I didn't pay list for my Ford. Did you pay list for your Dodge?
One thing I noticed as I was shopping for trucks these past few months was that in particular, the Ford F-150 had fewer discounts offered. The price of a loaded Platinum F-150 was pretty close to what I paid for my loaded Ram 2500.

I didn't want an F-150 this time but I did shop them... Heck I shopped everything! Ford seems to be getting the dollars for the higher spec'd versions anyway!

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Ram 5.7/3.92 has 48% of torque available at 70 mph. Ford 3.5L/3.55 has 72% torque at 70 mph- has to do with need or not to shift around while towing.

Do not compare any previous F-150 to a 2015 or newer model. They are totally different with 800 or so pounds less weight. As far as the engines and legit concerns. You will be hard pressed to find any modern truck engine without write-ups, especially on the Internet. I know when I shopped, I learned of issues. The ecoboost is a good engine. It has some oil build up issues on valves as all direct injections are challenged with- use synthetic. GMs with their cylinder deactivation have documented oil issues beginning around 30K. These are documented issues by the manufacturers- not opinion. Ram has them too. Pick what you like but study the specs as well.

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The F-150 is THE most popular vehicle, not just trucks, sold in America. There is a reason for this and it all boils down to personal preference. Another reason for me is that GM and Dodge still owe the Government from the bailout, but that's another story.
For me it was more than personal preference. I actually have a spreadsheet of details and found facts, like the torque at speed I shared. The bailout ? Well, yes, it does make me feel better about buying from a better managed company but not a total deal breaker. I liked the Ram looks and the front seat area a lot but when the diesel was eliminated from my options, I was less impressed. You know, the process of shopping.

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Our 2012 (Dodge) Ram Hemi Reg Cab at 50k miles was two weeks ago allowed within $4500 of what we paid for it new, on trade-in. The dealer then certified it and priced it at $1000 less we paid for it new, and sold it in a few days.
That's excellent. I suspected resale had changed on the Dodge. I guess pretty much the big three have the same resale values..
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Well - The 70's were 40 years ago, things change, my Brady Bunch plaid pants aren't worth as much and time does slip by...............
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At the end of the day you have to come up with your own list of reasons and shop based on that. A lot of good advice in this thread.
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