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Old 03-20-2016, 10:44 AM   #57
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I thought that I would jump in and just add a couple of comments on the Ford F150 3.5 EcoBoost engine. I have two, a 2011 F150 Platinum and a 2015 F150 Platinum. Both used extensively towing either a 25FC or 28FC and a horse trailer. The 2011 which I still have has 145,000 miles on it and the 2015 has 48,000 miles on it.

Most all of the issues with moisture accumulation in the turbos are in high humidity States like TX and FL. I live in TX and have had no problems with the moisture issue. his is caused by an air cooler (CAC) prior to the turbos, which causes condensation in some instances. In 2014 a mod was made which a deflector which appears to have resolved the issue. The only issues encountered with my trucks is an intercooler failure on the 2011 which was covered under warranty. In 2015 they changed the location of the intercooler helping resolve the issues which caused the failure. On the 2015, just had a sensor in the throttle body fail which again covered under warranty.

As far as trucks go, both I am sure are great vehicles and a personal choice, The EcoBoost has plenty of power and torque and I have gotten good mileage from both of mine and been happy with them. We have pulled ours through CO Rockies and up into and through Canadian Rockies with no issues.

Good luck with you decision, as I am sure you will be happy either way you go.

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Old 03-20-2016, 11:33 AM   #58
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.... but the Ram people are politically dancing around their sub 1,000 lb payload numbers.
It all depends how you outfit it. My 2015 Ram 1500 door sticker says 1,681 payload.
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Old 03-20-2016, 12:15 PM   #59
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No dancing, my 1500 was 1250 payload door sticker.

I'll say this about this forum; the payload issue is either completely overblown or entirely ignored. The reality is somewhere in the middle.

Don't overload your vehicles and know how you'll use it.

We're like Doug, a year and half of ownership, we loved our 1500 Ram Laramie 4x4 and are fulltimers. We did just upgrade to a 2500 Powerwagon - but my reasoning is completely different and I explained it in another thread.
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Old 03-20-2016, 04:15 PM   #60
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The newer Airstreams do make payload a big issue.

My '98 had an original hitch weight at 610, and 760 when I loaded it up. I now read of folks listing +/- 1,000.

And my base weight was 6,840 while the new ones are 7,400. Not sure where all that extra weight is coming from. The floor plan looks the same. And my rig has solid oak face frames and cabinet doors. Maybe it's in the axle and frame.... my GVWR is 8,600 compared to the new ones at 10,000.
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Old 03-20-2016, 04:40 PM   #61
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My 07 dodge with 6.7 and 6 speed auto don't care what kind of load it has, it just goes... Like my 500 hp cat ....to the west coast in 9 days...
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Old 03-20-2016, 07:11 PM   #62
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F150 or Ram 1500 Which One For Tow Vehicle?

Wow, I never thought I would receive so much info on helping me decide which truck to purchase... which is why I posted the question to people who actually use these trucks with their Airstream.

I am almost certain after looking at both trucks,and I currently have a 2010 F150 Lariat 4x4 with 5.4L, I really liked the Ram Laramie level with 5.7L Hemi.

Looks like both trucks will do the job, and I certainly learned lots about payload of the vehicle. I can see F150 has a little more, so I will have to watch some options, such as a sunroof for example on the Ram.

Remember I only go out for about 6 weeks of the year, and the rest of the time it is an occasional driver ��.

Now one of the most important things I was not thinking about was color!

Currently have Tuxedo Black, and love that color, but an awesome silver, maroon, pearl blue or even black.... will do!

Cannot wait to get a new truck.... and thanks for all your help ��
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I always ask how will you use the vehicle first, and then which one feels the most comfortable to you. I originally narrowed it down to the Ford & Ram both the Lariat & Laramie. I liked the Ram interior personally how it felt and made my decision.

The other things were factors, but at the end of the day you end up with what you like best. I recall the Ford we were considering had some more payload, and the wife liked the seats, but I just liked our first Ram.

Good luck with your decision.
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Old 03-20-2016, 09:14 PM   #64
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Wow, I never thought I would receive so much info on helping me decide which truck to purchase... which is why I posted the question to people who actually use these trucks with their Airstream.

I am almost certain after looking at both trucks,and I currently have a 2010 F150 Lariat 4x4 with 5.4L, I really liked the Ram Laramie level with 5.7L Hemi.

Looks like both trucks will do the job, and I certainly learned lots about payload of the vehicle. I can see F150 has a little more, so I will have to watch some options, such as a sunroof for example on the Ram.

Remember I only go out for about 6 weeks of the year, and the rest of the time it is an occasional driver ��.

Now one of the most important things I was not thinking about was color!

Currently have Tuxedo Black, and love that color, but an awesome silver, maroon, pearl blue or even black.... will do!

Cannot wait to get a new truck.... and thanks for all your help ��
One more factor, although probably a minor one. Dealer service. Most new trucks are very reliable, but every so often folks end up with a vehicle that needs more than just routine service. If you decide that the Ford vs Ram decision is a toss-up, you might consider reading all the on-line reviews of the two different dealers you would probably go to for service and see if there is a great disparity in client satisfaction. You're not likely to need much service, so this suggestion is really on the margin.
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Old 03-21-2016, 06:55 AM   #65
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One other thing to consider, is resale value. I have not seen that mentioned in this thread. In the old days (70s) I do not think the Dodge had the resale value of a Ford, I imagine that has changed, as these days I sure see a lot more Dodge trucks around.
I'm curious as to why you didn't consider GM? I borrowed one the other day (1500) and was impressed with how it drove.
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Old 03-21-2016, 07:21 AM   #66
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One other thing to consider, is resale value. I have not seen that mentioned in this thread. In the old days (70s) I do not think the Dodge had the resale value of a Ford, I imagine that has changed, as these days I sure see a lot more Dodge trucks around.
Well - The 70's were 40 years ago, things change, my Brady Bunch plaid pants aren't worth as much and time does slip by...............
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One other thing to consider, is resale value. I have not seen that mentioned in this thread. In the old days (70s) I do not think the Dodge had the resale value of a Ford, I imagine that has changed, as these days I sure see a lot more Dodge trucks around.
I'm curious as to why you didn't consider GM? I borrowed one the other day (1500) and was impressed with how it drove.
Our 2012 (Dodge) Ram Hemi Reg Cab at 50k miles was two weeks ago allowed within $4500 of what we paid for it new, on trade-in. The dealer then certified it and priced it at $1000 less we paid for it new, and sold it in a few days.
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I believe that trucks in general have great retained value, especially compared to an average automobile.
Everyone in the business that I've asked says that diesels are even better.
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Well, the time is finally here to get our new truck to pull our 1991 29ft Excella, which I believe has a GVWR of 6900 pounds, dry weight 5500??
The question being…which truck and what engine?

I did so much research my head is spinning and I thought my fellow Airstreamers might have an answer for me.

Looking at 2016 F150 4x4 Crew Cab with 3.5L EcoBoost with 145" WB. The GCWR(Gross Combined Weight Rating), of both the Airstream loaded up as well as the truck loaded up is 16,900 pounds. The towing capacity is 11,500 pounds.
HP on the 3.5L is 365 and torque 420.

I was all over this truck, then I read some very bad reviews of this engine on Ford F150 Forums mind you a few years earlier, but have they fixed the problem?? I am now thinking this is not the engine to go with.

Now looking at the same F150 with the 5.0L TI-VCT, 385HP and 387 pounds of torque. It's GCWR is 16,200 pounds and Towing capacity is 10,900 pounds.

Looked at 2016 Dodge Ram 1500 with 5.7L Hemi 395HP and 410 pounds of torque. It's GCWR is 15950 pounds and towing capacity is 10,160 pounds.

This info is all from the current Ford and Ram brochure, so I hope I have deciphered it correctly.

The real question is will any of these trucks do the tow job with little or no issues, meaning lack of power and actual capability, for my trusty old 29 footer?

Any feedback will be helpful from other owners. I know there are awesome salespeople out there, but some just want a sale.
I just got back to Ocean Shores from Reno pulling my 1972 25' Tradewinds through the high mountains of Shasta National Forest and also through Lassen National Forest, we hit pretty close to 6000 ft ele. My 2014 Dodge hemi didn't miss a beat. Of course it went from and average of 20mpg unloaded to 10mpg with the trailer. The Dodge rides like my ML350, smooth and quite.
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Well, the time is finally here to get our new truck to pull our 1991 29ft Excella, which I believe has a GVWR of 6900 pounds, dry weight 5500??
The question being…which truck and what engine?

I did so much research my head is spinning and I thought my fellow Airstreamers might have an answer for me.

Looking at 2016 F150 4x4 Crew Cab with 3.5L EcoBoost with 145" WB. The GCWR(Gross Combined Weight Rating), of both the Airstream loaded up as well as the truck loaded up is 16,900 pounds. The towing capacity is 11,500 pounds.
HP on the 3.5L is 365 and torque 420.

I was all over this truck, then I read some very bad reviews of this engine on Ford F150 Forums mind you a few years earlier, but have they fixed the problem?? I am now thinking this is not the engine to go with.

Now looking at the same F150 with the 5.0L TI-VCT, 385HP and 387 pounds of torque. It's GCWR is 16,200 pounds and Towing capacity is 10,900 pounds.

Looked at 2016 Dodge Ram 1500 with 5.7L Hemi 395HP and 410 pounds of torque. It's GCWR is 15950 pounds and towing capacity is 10,160 pounds.

This info is all from the current Ford and Ram brochure, so I hope I have deciphered it correctly.

The real question is will any of these trucks do the tow job with little or no issues, meaning lack of power and actual capability, for my trusty old 29 footer?

Any feedback will be helpful from other owners. I know there are awesome salespeople out there, but some just want a sale.
DO NOT RELY SOLEY ON TOWING CAPACITY. I did and bought a new 2015 Tundra Limited Crew Max 4X4. It has approx the same payload as F150 or RAM 1500. The tongue weight on my 25FB is 836, but add in the hitch-work/WD and now Im at 1000 lbs. Add my 200 lb Snugtop shell and two adults sitting in front and I am already over both GVWR by almost 500 lbs and GAWR by over 130 lbs. I can't put anything in the bed of my truck in order to keep the weight down. A RAM 2500 4X4 Mega Cab 6.4 Hemi will give me 2800 lbs of payload (the one I looked at). I hope this helps. I wish my local Airstream dealer had considered more than towing capacity before highly recommending this track to me.
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