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Old 03-19-2016, 10:56 AM   #29
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I'll race ya!
May drink lots of gas doing it though!


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Old 03-19-2016, 10:58 AM   #30
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:28 AM   #31
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While you guys are racing I think we'll head down the road today at 30 mpg with the "little" Ecodiesel, maybe a little more.

We did the research on payload, experimented with the driving and braking effects of full loads with and without the Airstream (and w.d. hitch) with our previous Ram 1500, and noted our axle limits of 3900 lbs each and tire limits of 2500 lbs each.

Based on extensive experience with our previous Ram 1500 Hemi, we reached the conclusion the new Ram 1500 Ecodiesel would be a very well matched combination for our 25' Flying Cloud, a quality w.d. hitch setup, with all the carrying capacity we'll ever need.
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:41 AM   #32
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The eco diesel is an excellent idea.
But I can buy lots of gas for my paid for gas hog with $44,000.
Economically speaking it makes more sense to drive a paid for vehicle than to buy a new one to save gas.


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Old 03-19-2016, 12:24 PM   #33
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m.hony, you're right, one cannot make much economic sense of trading for better fuel economy. But there are lots of other reasons for trading, and in some cases they are both paid for up front. Or in the case of some new vehicles, they are offering 0% interest rates where it is better to keep your cash in the bank drawing interest and let them pay for it at no interest. That's how we did it.
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Old 03-19-2016, 12:47 PM   #34
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I have a zero % loan on my wife's 2014 Toyota Avalon.
Tundra is paid for.
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When a vehicle actually quits-


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Old 03-19-2016, 01:12 PM   #35
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Brownstone is actually the best, but then you might need to get a GMC/Chevy.
We are interested in purchasing a 27 or 30 ft flying cloud and are looking at the Silverado 1500. Is your tow vehicle the same? Not sure if this will do the job. We live in Stuart. Thanks.
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Old 03-19-2016, 02:00 PM   #36
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While you guys are racing I think we'll head down the road today at 30 mpg with the "little" Ecodiesel, maybe a little more.

We did the research on payload, experimented with the driving and braking effects of full loads with and without the Airstream (and w.d. hitch) with our previous Ram 1500, and noted our axle limits of 3900 lbs each and tire limits of 2500 lbs each.

Based on extensive experience with our previous Ram 1500 Hemi, we reached the conclusion the new Ram 1500 Ecodiesel would be a very well matched combination for our 25' Flying Cloud, a quality w.d. hitch setup, with all the carrying capacity we'll ever need.
Just curious what the published payload is for your new Ram? Also what options did you get?

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Old 03-19-2016, 02:46 PM   #37
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I recently upgraded to a 2016 RAM 2500 Laramie 4x4 from a 2013 RAM 1500 Outdoorsman 2WD. I really like the 1500. I sold it because 1) the cargo capacity was much lower than I wanted, 2) it had a "temporary" spare tire, 3) not 4x4 and 4) I wasn't that impressed by the EMC based engine braking in tow-haul mode.

Make sure you check the door sticker of the truck that you want to buy. The actual cargo capacity will be lower by a few hundred pounds than the "brochure-online" specs.

I loved the 20" wheels and tires. However, the mismatched spare on a 17" stamped steel wheel didn't seem the way to go as a tow vehicle. They do this to keep the truck weight down.

We thought we'd be asphalt Airstreamers. As it turned out we turned down many opportunities to camp on non-asphalt roads that might have been impacted by weather or loose surfaces.

The brakes also tended to be challenged by long 7 degree plus downgrades, even with the ecm based engine brake.

The hemi was plenty of power towing the 23D and I know people who tow 25s and 27 with hemi based RAMs.

I do know a guy that has been very challenged handling-wise with his 2015 1500 eco-diesel towing a 2015 27 footer. He has a camper shell and since full time is at his cargo capacity max. He is in the market for a 2500.
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My 2016 Ram 1500 came with a full-size permanent spare. Maybe all those folks with a 2013 complained enough....

The 5.7 hemi has pulled my 30' ((7,600 lbs loaded) over the highest/steepest passes in Colorado without breaking a sweat. And the 8-speed tranny is sweet.
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My 2016 Ram 1500 came with a full-size permanent spare. Maybe all those folks with a 2013 complained enough....

The 5.7 hemi has pulled my 30' ((7,600 lbs loaded) over the highest/steepest passes in Colorado without breaking a sweat. And the 8-speed tranny is sweet.
My wife has an Audi SQ5 with that transmission and it is sweet!
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Old 03-19-2016, 05:30 PM   #40
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Hey guys, they're all good trucks and a lot of good points here, but you gas guys need to understand us diesel heads are willing to pay the premium price just for the sound & great mileage.
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...and we don't like the sound or smell...


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...and we don't like the sound or smell...


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You know...? There is no smell from the exhaust of a modern diesel.
The tailpipe of my Ram could pass the white glove test after 2000 miles
Pretty amazing!
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