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09-15-2012, 09:08 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1993 30' Excella
Lakeland
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 343
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[QUOTE=AldeanFan;1202963]Does anyone tow at 85mph?
No wonder there are so many GYM tire failures.
Many people don't realise that trailer tires have a max tow speed of 65mph ( on the sidewall) and even at that speed if something happens it gets real dicey quick. I've had trailers pass me going to Florida doing 75 or so and once saw the result with insulation, windows and scattered fragments strewn all over the highway. (I stopped and asked what happened and a guy said a tire blew and the white box trailer swerved and flipped ).
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09-15-2012, 09:23 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1993 30' Excella
Lakeland
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 343
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white knuckle RVing
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Originally Posted by Safari-Rick
The answer is NO !
I had a 2005 Dodge Dakota 4.7L v8 with posi traction and rigged for towing and then bought my 2005 AS Safari 25 ft LS.
Works fine on flat land but when I made the trip to Yosemite I had a major problem with the engine heating up and barly made it to the top of the summit when the engine turned itself off!
When I took it into the shop I was told I had a cracked head and my exhaust pipe had expanded due to the etreme heat. Good news..... I was still covered under the warrenty (I had 1000 miles left on the 36000 warrenty).
Cost for repairs..... $3200 and change.
So, that`s my story sad bu true.
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The weight is the weight. What a great example of Max vehicle tow weight. The 2005 25' Safari weighs 5270 without accesories so adding about 300 lbs for acc. and whatever stuff was packed in it usually 600 lbs is a good average for food water, clothing, bed stuff you were right at, or over, the trucks ideal condition tow capacity. Add in climbing high terrain (less oxygen, grade % ?, wind) and you're beating the death out of your rig. Hope you upgrade to a higher capacity vehicle.
Best of luck.
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09-15-2012, 09:28 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1993 30' Excella
Lakeland
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 343
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oops forgot to add Gandichen's 1981 27 International only weighs 4260 empty.
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09-15-2012, 11:32 AM
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USN/LAPD Retired
2005 25' Safari
North Las Vegas
, United States
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arcamedies
The weight is the weight. What a great example of Max vehicle tow weight. The 2005 25' Safari weighs 5270 without accesories so adding about 300 lbs for acc. and whatever stuff was packed in it usually 600 lbs is a good average for food water, clothing, bed stuff you were right at, or over, the trucks ideal condition tow capacity. Add in climbing high terrain (less oxygen, grade % ?, wind) and you're beating the death out of your rig. Hope you upgrade to a higher capacity vehicle.
Best of luck.
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Oh, forgot to mention that I later purchased a Dodge 2500 diesel w tow package. Now towing is not an issue......telling the wife not to take so much "stuff" is !........LOL
Safari Rick
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2007 Dodge Ram Quadcab 6.7L Diesel w/jakebrake
"Better to have more then you need, then need more then you have because you don't have enough!"
AIR #: 8129
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09-15-2012, 01:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 22' Sport
High River
, Alberta
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,190
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I'm the guy towing the 27' Overlander with the 5 cylinder Volvo . . . we're graduating to a 6 cylinder Volvo next year! The surplus of power will be great!
I've looked at the numbers; the 4.7 Dodge wouldn't be great - not even as good as the Volvo 5 cylinder. It will do the job, but you will need to be patient. However, if it's what you've got, give it a try.
You may wonder why the Volvo would be better. It's because of gearing, and the fact that the Volvo engine spins faster to get the job done. (It's generally at 3000 to 3300 rpm on a level highway, 4500 on hills, 5000+ when accelerating (manual transmission).
For our Texas friend - I do tow in the mountains. Sometimes logging trucks hold me up.
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09-15-2012, 03:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 22' International CCD
2007 Base Camp
Elk Valley
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 657
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gandichen
I have a 27 ft International with gross weight of 6200 lbs.
Will a 2006 Dodge Dakota 4.7L V8, 5 speed auto trans with tow package handle it?
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The reason you are getting different opinions here is because you are so close to the edge... If you putt-putt on the flats, it will be a bit of a dog but it will do it. That setup is going to work really hard on hills and into stiff headwinds...
So, it really depends on if you get a good WD hitch to manage the weight, and what your idea of 'acceptable' is for performance. Many here are quite over-capable with their tow vehicles so they don't have to debate such issues...
It wouldn't be ideal... if that is a PC way to say it... and if you flog it, it will explode.
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09-18-2012, 11:28 AM
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#27
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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My tow Fords have speed limiters at 100 MPH. I just hate those things.
Perry
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Originally Posted by Road Ruler
LOL, actually our TV's speed limiter is set at 240KPH (148MPH) but for towing the 23' we keep it down to 41% of that. We like a nice safety cushion.
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09-18-2012, 12:23 PM
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#28
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4 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari
saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 410
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I have owned (3) Dodge Dakotas and would never tow with one again. All the transmissions have failed between 80 and 100,000 miles. the service folks told me after the last one, the transmissions aren't built for very heavy service. I don't own a Dakota anymore because of it. My experience may be unusual, but when a Dodge service guy told me that, well , that was good enough for me.
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09-19-2012, 07:41 AM
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#29
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New Member
1981 27' International
Lodi
, California
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4
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