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Old 07-11-2015, 11:58 AM   #1
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Towing our 34'

We just purchased our 1989, 34' Airstream, Tri-Axle. It had a Hensley hitch on it when we bought it. We had to remove it to tow the trailer with our truck.

My question basically boils down to this: Our tow vehicle is a 2015 Ram crew cab, dually, 3500 HD, Cummins Diesel, so....there is NO drop, the truck has no idea the trailer is there.

We had to buy a 3" drop hitch to get the trailer level and even that was to high. We towed the trailer 80 miles home at Interstate Speed with ease, the truck actually ran better with a load. Seriously it was hard not to speed.

So do we need the sway control? Our trailer is 34' tri-axle, she never swayed in the least. My thought was to buy a 6" drop hitch, and maybe at the most buy a friction sway bar. We certainly don't need a weight distribution hitch. How much should we ask for the Hensley Hitch? It's heavy and not needed.
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Old 07-11-2015, 12:30 PM   #2
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Usually the issue with not using a weight distributing hitch, besides the drop at the rear axle, is that there is weight transferred from the front axle to the rear. This can have a tendency to make steering "squirrely." Your truck is probably heavy enough so this is not a problem, or at least you have not noticed it yet. The tongue weight of your trailer is probably around 800 pounds. I find it hard to believe there is "no" drop at the rear of the truck with this amount of weight hanging at the very stern; it may, however, be slight.

As far as sway control goes, you may not need that either with the long wheelbase of your truck. Some people swear by it. We tow with a long wheelbase (extended) full size Chevrolet van and never have issues with sway with our 30' trailer.

One thing you need to be careful of is to make sure your hitch equipment is rated for the weight of your trailer and tongue. Usually the higher load rated components are weight distribution equipment.

Good luck in your travels, and welcome to the AS community!!
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Old 07-11-2015, 12:51 PM   #3
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Unfortunately you have to buy another drop bar. It is critical that an Airstream sit parallel to the ground while being towed. Failure to do this changes the tongue weight. Tongue high equals additional tongue weight and tongue low equals less tongue weight. While you will not notice this in general towing with a dually it could become and issue during a sway event.

I would recommend the Andersen hitch. I tow my 34 with an Excursion diesel and love it. And yes be prepared to have to change the coupler on the trailer. Sell the Ha Ha and put $1,000.00 in your pocket.
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Old 07-11-2015, 12:55 PM   #4
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Yes, ordinary I would agree...and always use a weight distribution hitch. But in this case, there is no drop in the rear of the truck at all. There was no noticeable change at all to our steering. My wife and I are firm believers in overkill, that's why we have the 3500 HD. But in this case a weight distribution hitch seems rediculous. ....
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Old 07-11-2015, 12:59 PM   #5
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I did think about buying a weight distribution hitch more for the looks of it than anything and just add a friction sway control, again more for looks. I don't want the Hensley hitch on the trailer.
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Old 07-11-2015, 01:50 PM   #6
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You do not need a conventional WD hitch with that set up. You do however need sway control. That is why I mentioned the Andersen.

WD hitches do a great job of moving weight with a secondary function of sway control. The Andersen does a great job of sway control with a secondary job of weight transfer. Get what you need not what looks good on the rig.
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Get the sway control bars and go for it! No WD needed. Be sure ball mount is rated high enough, though.
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Old 07-11-2015, 03:24 PM   #8
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Thanks for the info. After I looked at what model Hensley we have, I'm just going to order a drop hitch an put the Hensley back on......we decided overkill was the way to go, even though I'm sure we don't need the WDH.
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We tow our 30'er with an Anderson hitch. It has sway control integrated into the hitch design. It also is a weight distributing hitch. Towing with a Dodge diesel 3500 truck I have never used an external sway control even when I had other type of hitches. I always do use the weight distribution when we travel. A few weeks ago after working on the brakes I took it for a short test drive and didn't bother to hook up the weight distribution and just hooked and went. On a short 5 mile trip on country roads I couldn't even tell the difference but I still will use the weight dist. when we travel.
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The HaHa WD feature may seem unnecessary. However, the "sway elimination" is present when using the HaHa.

I cannot imagine there being "no" settling when adding 800# to your TV. I suppose you actually measured from a fixed point on the TV to the same place on the ground before and after....

As mentioned, a nose down will not handle as well as it could. Same for "nose high". Also, on our 34' I see imbalance in pressures and temps when the WD or height is improperly set. This can cause a problem with tire and axle/bearing life. But not immediately.

There are "adjustable" hitch heads to facilitate getting a "level" hitch. Or weld one up yourselves.

For our 2500 Silverado I set the hitch head 1/2-3/4" high before transferring load to the TV. Then I adust the WD bars to properly distribute the load to the TV.

The 34 CAN sway. With the HaHa you don't notice because by design it keeps TV and AS aligned.

Check out this video before you sell it off. http://youtu.be/v2otJAgYiTo
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Even though not necessary, if you already gave the Hensley I would use it. I use a WD set with little WD mainly because it allows me to use two external sway bars.
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Without sway control you might not know you need it until you really need it, which if you don't have it can result in catastrophic results.
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I mispoke. I use little WD, not sway control. I always use sway control, actually two. Edited.
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I bought the HAHA even though I pretty well have the same truck. And my trailer is a bit larger. Having the TT stay locked behind the TV is worth the few bucks. There is no substitute.
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