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Old 11-03-2012, 06:01 PM   #21
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Guys, I think that all of the "my bigger truck is better" crowd should do a little more homework. Andy Thompson (CanAm RV) is one of the most knowledgeable towing people in North America. He has written articles in numerous RV mags as well as Airstream Life. Attend one of Andy's towing seminars at Alumapalooza and you may become a convert as I have. There is so much more to safe towing than just having the heavy truck.
Talk with Airsteamers that are towing with what you may think are unconventional vehicles---I think that you may rethink your position on what is important for safe and comfortable towing.

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This thread was not started as a debate/bash of toe vehicles....

Look at the screen-shot.

See anything rong....like no light's, no brakes,
inadequate hitch, no weight distribution.
Can you blame newbie folks for being a little cornfused?

PS....I have a big toe.

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Old 11-03-2012, 06:36 PM   #22
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I can't believe no one has commented that it's a vintage Airstream in the Nissan ad. When I saw that on TV, I was really surprised - most ads have new Airstreams. (Oops, I now see crispyboy did say that. Sorry! Missed it the first time through.)
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:15 AM   #23
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I am curious if the Airstream was rented from a forum member. Every once in a while someone will post that they are looking for an Airstream for a commercial.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:24 AM   #24
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The ad just goes to prove that manufacturers, or at least their marketing people, know diddly squat about towing.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:51 AM   #25
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My thoughts too UKToad.
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The ad just goes to prove that manufacturers, or at least their marketing people, know diddly squat about towing.

BINGO!!!

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Old 11-04-2012, 11:07 AM   #27
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On the other hand marketing is smart.


Young folks today will be all over that new Pathfinder.

They are also big on the Airstream concept. Old streams as well as the new ones.

This ad is directed to the young and old but I would say especially the younger generations.
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:25 AM   #28
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I used to think Pathfinders looked cool. I owned a 1990 (maybe 89 can't remember) ( 2 door with the triangle windows) for several years. They had a rugged look. This one however looks just like any one of a dozen different brands of SUVs (including my Subaru Outback) now being produced that you can't tell apart from one another until you read the badging. I guess its just another sign of being an old fart.

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I guess it is because of Canam RV in Canada experimenting with towing large trailers with really small tow vehicles. I don't know what drivers and roads are like in Canada but towing large trailers with small tow vehicles will get you killed on interstates here in the states. The tail will wag the dog.

http://www.canamrv.ca/towing/

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Although our highways in Canada are excellent, I find that the interstates in the US are also really great highways and the drivers do a better job of staying to the right except when passing. There does not appear to be any reason to have any extra fear while driving on an Interstate. They feel safe. I have also found that my Jeep tows a larger Airstream just as competently as it towed a smaller Airstream with the only noticeable difference being the extra care needed when going around a corner. Weight does not seem to be a negative factor. Thank you for highlighting Can Am's road tests. Many of us do not need large vehicles but do wish to join in the fun of owning an Airstream. I think Airstream has also discovered that the smaller vehicles been driven in the rest of the world has not been an impediment to exporting Airstreams.
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This cross border war will probably go on until some great guru comes to convince all that it is OK if different people play with their toys in a different manner. It is actually OK to play basketball with a volleyball, if thats what you like to do.

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Old 11-04-2012, 09:13 PM   #31
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What cross border war?

We tight as ticks here in WNY.


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Old 11-04-2012, 09:39 PM   #32
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Yea in Canada we knows how to toe dem big ones,eh.
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Well, it does have a 5000 lb towing capacity!

In Canada they could easily tow a 34 footer with this thing.
It seems the farther we get from Texas the less likely we are to oversize our tow vehicles.

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Back to the Nissan—not the same Pathfinder based on a truck chassis, but now a unibody station wagon. There's a trend to make SUV's into station wagons because the manufacturers believe customers perceive trucks as having a hard ride. But trucks have been made plush and smooth riding, maybe too much so.

Toyota still makes the truck based 4Runner and the car based Highlander, but the trend is toward carlike vehicles.

I'm sure the station wagon Pathfinder could tow the lighter vintage Airstream, but I'd suggest a WD, antisway hitch. Certainly some modifications to the Pathfinder would be a good idea. Some tow mirrors would be a good idea too.

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It seems the farther we get from Texas the less likely we are to oversize our tow vehicles.

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Doug,

It seem to me the farther people are from Texas, the less likely they are to pay any attention to the tow vehicle manufacturer's towing specs and axle gross weight ratings of those vehicles.

Do those engineers really mean those specs to be maximum or just a suggestion?

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Back to the Nissan

... but I'd suggest a WD, antisway hitch. Certainly some modifications to the Pathfinder would be a good idea. Some tow mirrors would be a good idea too.

Gene
Ah, but do those things add sexiness? Will they sell the Pathfinder? If the answer to either one of those questions is "no" then the ad men don't want to know. Tsk.
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Do those engineers really mean those specs to be maximum or just a suggestion?

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Slightly off topic, but...

Ha ha, I always think that about posted speed limits as I see people come flying by me well in excess of said limit - they're just suggestions, aren't they?
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I have no idea what that thing in the video is. This is a Nissan Pathfinder.
I towed a 15 foot Casita with one just like it. It was a very good match.

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I have no idea what that thing in the video is. This is a Nissan Pathfinder.
I towed a 15 foot Casita with one just like it. It was a very good match.

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That's very interesting Ken, however, Casita has never made a 15'. They do make a 13', a 16', and a 17'.
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That's very interesting Ken, however, Casita has never made a 15'. They do make a 13', a 16', and a 17'.
You are ever so wrong. Ours was a 1994 15'. That was long before they changed the 15 to a 16.

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