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Old 03-10-2006, 12:00 PM   #29
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2004 Dodge (Mercedes) Sprinter van LOADED (14,990 CGVW) pulling a 2006 19CCD........15.5-16.5mpg. By loaded, I mean a van full of service tools in roll-away cabinets, a 600 lb motorcycle and a bunch of other stuff .
Not knowing the weight of the 19' CCD, this could be the most efficient rig.
How much does the 19' CCD weigh?

Every time I go to buy a new rig diesel is just out of reach for my needs.

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Old 03-10-2006, 02:08 PM   #30
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With the cost of diesel higher and the initial cost of the truck higher is it worth it?
If I remember correctly, when I was at the GMC dealer last week, I think the Duramax/Allison combo was $7555 on the sticker.

Assuming 12000 miles per year at 18 MPG with $2.60 a gallon diesel compared to a similar gas powered truck at 12 MPG with $2.40 a gallon gasoline, you net a savings of $667 a year. At that rate it would take over 10 years to recover the cost of the diesel.

When I purchased my diesel, I received a $6000 rebate on the truck, so I figure I got the diesel for free. At that time diesel fuel was 30 cents a gallon cheaper than gasoline.
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:28 PM   #31
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Thru the hills of NH, ME, and VT , 14-15 mpg
On a flat inter-state 17mpg @ 65mph

Pick had some good observation on Diesel vs Gas . One other thing to remember about a diesel , a good portion of the extra initial cost comes back in trade-in value . If you don't tow much distance it probably doesn't pay. If you do a lot of towing and put a lot of miles on per year , the numbers change significantly
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Old 03-10-2006, 11:06 PM   #32
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  • 1964 Overlander International -- 6,100 pounds gross weight
    • 1999 GMC K2500 Suburban, 7400 VORTEC, 4.10 Differentials
      • Solo 14-15 MPG (65 MPH maximum)
      • Towing 11 - 12 MPG (55 MPH maximum)
      • Towing in Rocky Mountains 9-10 MPG (55 MPH maximum)
    • 1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible, 8.2 Liter V8, 2.70 Final Drive
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  • 1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre -- 3,050 pounds gross weight
    • 1999 GMC K2500 Suburban, 7400 VORTEC, 4.10 Differentials
      • Towing 12-13 MPG (55 MPH maximum)
      • Towing in Rocky Mountains 11-12 MPG (55 MPH maximum)
    • 1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible, 8.2 Liter V8, 2.70 Final Drive
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With either of my coaches, I utilize Overdrive when towing with the Suburban -- the directive in the Owners' Manual approves with the advisory to downshift to Direct Drive if the transmission begins to hunt. I now have in excess of 160,000 miles on the Suburban with no drivetrain problems other than an electronic trnasfer case module that routinely fails at about 15,000 mile intervals. I am still waiting to make my first trip to the Rocky Mountains with the Cadillac/Minuet combination -- the trip must wait until the suspension/wheel clearance issues are solved on the Cadillac.

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Old 03-11-2006, 01:30 AM   #33
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Pulling my Trade Wind with my 91 f150 I get about 8mpg and I dont move all that fast
Well don't feel too bad. I get between 9 and 10 with my 95 f-250 460 cid towing my Caravel around. Heck I get 9 no matter what. Just like my dads ol' 72 f 250.

I can get it down to about 7 mpg if I decide to have a lead foot !

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Old 03-11-2006, 05:03 AM   #34
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Hello -

We get 12-13 on flat ground (Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, etc.) and 10-11 on hills (Mass., Pa, Maine, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia).

2002 Silverado, 4.8 Liter with towing package towing a 2005 28' International - 60 mph (unless we're going downhill!)

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Old 03-11-2006, 07:53 AM   #35
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Not knowing the weight of the 19' CCD, this could be the most efficient rig.
How much does the 19' CCD weigh?

Every time I go to buy a new rig diesel is just out of reach for my needs.

Rob
If I recall, the Sprinter weights are as follows:

GCVW: 14,990
Max trailer weight: 5000
Max cargo capacity: 3800
Empty vehicle weight: JUst under 6000

I'll look it up in the manual when I get a chance
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Old 04-26-2006, 11:48 AM   #36
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Towing: at 55 mph 13 mpg
Solo: at 55-60 mph 19-20 mpg, at 70 mph ~17 mpg

Both lightly loaded, little wind, level to slightly rolling hills.
Big hills/mountains and/or city traffic kill the mileage (footage?).
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Old 04-26-2006, 12:21 PM   #37
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Surprisingly - 15.8 L/100km (15mpg) from Montana back to Calgary at 60mph, 13.8 (17mpg) from Calgary to Montana to pick the trailer up just 'slightly' quicker.

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22.5-23.5 with out the Bambi. The van has a 2.7L Mercedes diesel mated to a 5 speed automatic with manual shifting capability. Don't have a clue as to the rear gears.
Lew, what kind of power/acceleration do you have on steep hills and mountain grades with that rig? I was looking at those and they're pretty neat.
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I got about 11-12mpg towing a 26' 1958 Overlander with my Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd (5.7 liter Hemi - about 340hp - and all-wheel drive). That was, before I completely disassembled the trailer.
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Old 04-26-2006, 12:40 PM   #40
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I get around 11-13mpg towing through the mountains around AZ.
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Old 04-26-2006, 12:51 PM   #41
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Towing 1989 32' Excella 1000 - 13.5 - 15.0 depending on wind/terrain @ 55MPH with mixed traffic conditions (some slowing and stopping)

Towing 1999 25' Safari - 14.5 - 15 MPG so far - trailer is new to us and we have not taken it on enough trips to know if we can do any better. Rarely drive over 62 MPH when towing.

Empty: 17.5 to 20.5 MPG mixed driving and highway mileage mostly @ 62 to 72MPH

Was kind of surprised we did not do better with the Safari but most of the lighter weight is probably offset by the wide body and more wind resistance....

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