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Old 01-25-2015, 03:28 AM   #15
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If I were in your shoes, I'd definitely at least check out the new F150
with the all aluminum body

On paper at least, this truck is very intriguing
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Old 01-27-2015, 03:27 PM   #16
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I'm in the process of truck shopping for a TV for my new FC 27'. The GM 1/2 tons with either V-8 drive very well and are very quiet. GM really upgraded the interiors and introduced a new line of DI engines for 2014, a V-6 and two V-8s. I've also test-driven the new F-150 with 3.5 liter ecoboost engine. As between the Ford and the Chevy with the bigger V-8 I'd be hard pressed to pick a favorite. The Ford had more nifty gadgets; the Chevy has slightly better seats (comparable trim packages with leather). The smaller Chevy V-8 seems weaker than it really is because of throttle mapping. Just seems sluggish. Also test drove a Chevy 2500 LTZ. It feels and drives like the heavy vehicle that it is, and the engine makes all kind of interesting sounds. Supposedly, this is the most car-like of the 3/4 tons; I can only imagine what the big Ram and Ford are like. I've sat in the Ram with the Cummins diesel idling, but we didn't drive it. I do know that when you switch it off, the whole truck shakes. Can't imagine that you would need or want a 3/4 ton. They're a chore to drive and the fuel economy benefits of the diesel are negated by the extra 1000-1500. Lbs weight of the truck and the higher price of diesel fuel ( in the U.S. at least).
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Old 01-27-2015, 03:44 PM   #17
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I am a newbie so need advice. Can anyone recommend a best second hand towing vehicle for towing a flying cloud 25 FB TB?
Well I've had the very same airstream 2014 for about a year now. Love it. I'm not sure about what kind of TV your looking for and I was not sure how much truck I needed so I went all out and got a 2015 F250 Diesel FX4. No problems as all pulling it. Don't even know its back there. Enjoy yourself. Bill


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Old 01-28-2015, 02:25 AM   #18
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The reduced weight of the aluminum body gives the new 150 pretty amazing payload capabilities.

Don't know about the ride, tranny pairing, fit and finish, but for towing
a 25-30' trailer with a half ton truck, seems hard to beat
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Old 01-30-2015, 07:41 PM   #19
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We've been renting since mid-2012 everything from:

A mid-size SUV 2013 Nissan Pathfinder 4.0L V6 3x (not the new ones, but the older truck frame-on-body type) & they also had a V8, as did the Toyota 4Runner V8 & Land Cruiser V8 (also in that mid-size range, but we haven't rented any of them yet.)

To several full size pickups, including: a 1/2T 2013 Ford F150 Extended Cab/6' Bed with the V6/Auto, 2 - 3/4T Dodge Ram 2500 Crew Cab/8' Bed with the 5.7 V8 & 6.3 V8 Hemi & both Autos, a 3/4T Ford F250 Crew Cab/8' Bed 6.1L V8/Auto.

The F150 & first time Pathfinder were "bare ball" towing without Weight Distribution (WD) nor anti-sway, & the Pathfinder was a white knuckle ride over 55 mph, but the F150 had built-in anti-sway & was pretty good.

After the Pathfinder E-ticket ride - I got a Hensley Cub WD+Anti-sway hitch (sim. to their Arrow & Pro-Pride PPP hitches - more stuff for you to research & get everyone's opinion/preaching), & we're very happy with it since then on 2x Pathfinders + the 3/4T trucks. ALL were jacked up 4x4s.

All TVs were gas powered & all performed the task well on both flat/rolling & mountain pass terrain, but our 1960 Avion T20 is only about 3000-3200# max. wet & loaded - so net near what your new 25' AS will be. So keep that in mind.

For us, the 27-30' long truck + a 21-22' Trailer = a hitched rig of about 50' Long ~ & us climbing 6' high up into a jacked-up 4x4 behemoth 1/2 or 3/4 ton monster - was just uncomfortable in use & ride, handling & parking ~ plus I can only open the beasts' doors 1/4 or 1/3 of the way in our tight driveway ~ not to mention that my wife will NOT drive one hitched nor bare!

So given our driveway space constraints, narrow streets, tight campgrounds, non-towing driving preferences, etc. - the mid-size SUVs fit our needs best, & I'm now looking for a 2006-10 gas V8 powered Porsche Cayenne S with 7716# towing capacity & 770# hitch wt. (with WD - 500# & 500# on the ball, & this is the same rating on all engines of both the Cayenne & twin VW Taureg - except the Hybrids).

If a Cayenne or Taureg tickles your fancy, then there are several topics on here for that vehicle set (including mine), as well as for BMW X5, MBZ ML/GL, etc., as well as the big pick-ups, & just about anything else.

In addition to looking/asking on here, once you narrow to a few or 1-2 prospects, then also go the the websites for owners of those vehicles, & read up on what they do in towing & ask questions there too.

You - & your wife/SO/GF/Family - will need to figure out what fits YOUR needs best, & renting different ones can help, but the tow vehicle rental field is limited in who will let you rent what & actually tow with it!

You'll soon see that there are 2 camps out there - the "only tow with a truck camp" (i.e.: full size pick-up or SUVs) - & the "we tow with a 'not-a-big-ole-truck' camp" .... & anything but what they espouse is heresy!!

But just get what fits your needs & check that the towing capacity numbers & set-up are within that vehicle's limits & safe!

Good Luck & Have Fun!
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Renting a TV? Never really thought about that. I would think the rental agencies would not allow towing without a high daily fee add on.



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Old 02-04-2015, 10:26 AM   #20
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It all depends on where you plan on traveling to - if you plan on towing through the mountains, look to a heavier TV.

Our travels from Ontario to AZ, CA, NM & NV each winter plus summer travels is done in a 3/4 Dodge Ram with the 5.9 Cummins Diesel. My own test on flat land at 55 mph yielded 16.5 mpg when towing my 32-ft AS.

Diesel fuel is much denser than gasoline - approximately 50% BTU's for the same volume. So, our politicians decided to base the tax on the energy stored rather than the volume, hence the higher price; considering that there is a greater cost to refining gasoline, that's like robbing the rich to pay the poor.
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Diesel fuel is much denser than gasoline - approximately 50% BTU's for the same volume. So, our politicians decided to base the tax on the energy stored rather than the volume, hence the higher price; considering that there is a greater cost to refining gasoline, that's like robbing the rich to pay the poor.
Diesel has more energy than gasoline volumetrically, but it is closer to 14%, not 50%. And it can be less than that if it is a winter blend.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:08 PM   #22
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Hi,
Bought a 2015 Durango 5.7 AWD to tow my 25' FB TB Flying Cloud. Worked great in FL this winter but recently started to experience my front end drifting. Have you had any control problems? Oh, I have the EAZ lift WDS and two friction sway bars.
Thanks for any thoughts.
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IMHO, you should take it to a GOOD trailer dealer and get them to adjust it for you.

if not done right, it can lift the front end and cause vague steering. The weight in the tallier can vary , thus the Sway and friction setup can vary
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:12 AM   #24
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If you're front end is so light that you are having steering issues, you're in a dangerous situation. What's the rated cargo capacity of your Durango (there should be a sticker on the driver's side door jamb that says "total weight of passengers and cargo shall not exceed XXX"). How much cargo and passenger weight are you carrying? The trailer is probably putting 600-900 lbs of weight on the Durango. So you need the maximum possible tension on your weight distribution setup. Also check tire pressures. You may have to add air to rear tires.
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