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Old 12-06-2018, 05:55 PM   #1
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Towing a 23’ with a GMC Canyon diesel

I currently have a 19’ Bambi. Tow weight is around 4500 lbs. I have towed this unit extensively with a 2017 GMC Canyon diesel crew cab long bed with no issues at all. I don’t use an external sway bar and I’ve had no issues. I am looking at upgrading to a 23’ dual axle at around 6000 lbs. the vehicle information says it has an internal sway control. Would I be able to tow the new camper without an external sway bar? The tv is rated at 7700 lbs
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:31 PM   #2
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I would get a Weight Distribution hitch with sway control. It will be more stable and you will have better handling. I would say that is going to be the general advise on the forum.

You will find that with a longer trailer that wind, semis, etc. will begin to affect your handling more.

Also once you start to sway; not good.

It will cost a bit more, but you will not regret it.

Lots of WDH’s. That’s another story.
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:35 PM   #3
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I have towed by 23fc with my Chev Colorado the sister to your GMC. It was a gas however. I used a Equal-I-Zer with 600 lbs bars.

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Old 12-06-2018, 08:32 PM   #4
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Met a fellow in Durango this fall that was towing a 25 with his. He ran Wolf Creek Pass with no problem.

Yes, you need weight distribution and sway control. You need it for the 19.

Best WDSC - PPP hitch Propride or Hensley - cub will work with 23, maybe?
Better WD - purchase a Reese Straightline with dual cam sway control.
Good WDSC - get a Eaz-i-Lift with a pair of brake pad sway control struts.

Do not buy an Equal-i-zer as it is too stiff for the AS.
Do buy a Blue Ox Sway Pro with 750# bars. Research before you decide.

The 23 is a great coach. Review on the 23D and 23FB threads. Lots of good info. However the D/CB and FB are different trailers with different tow characteristics. Different length and different axle position.

Travel safe and collect those smiles. Pat
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:30 AM   #5
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Which 23?

Don't forget the two 23 models, the 23FB and the 23CB, have differences in tongue weight of about 200 pounds (CB is heavier).
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:14 AM   #6
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Met a fellow in Durango this fall that was towing a 25 with his. He ran Wolf Creek Pass with no problem.

Yes, you need weight distribution and sway control. You need it for the 19.

Best WDSC - PPP hitch Propride or Hensley - cub will work with 23, maybe?
Better WD - purchase a Reese Straightline with dual cam sway control.
Good WDSC - get a Eaz-i-Lift with a pair of brake pad sway control struts.

Do not buy an Equal-i-zer as it is too stiff for the AS.
Do buy a Blue Ox Sway Pro with 750# bars. Research before you decide.

The 23 is a great coach. Review on the 23D and 23FB threads. Lots of good info. However the D/CB and FB are different trailers with different tow characteristics. Different length and different axle position.

Travel safe and collect those smiles. Pat
Hi: I have an equal-i-zer hitch on my 22' International. I assumed that all equalizer hitches put the same stress on the trailer. Does the Equal-i-zer add additional stress? Just wondering. I don't want a broken frame to occur sometime down the road.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:42 AM   #7
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Hi: I have an equal-i-zer hitch on my 22' International. I assumed that all equalizer hitches put the same stress on the trailer. Does the Equal-i-zer add additional stress? Just wondering. I don't want a broken frame to occur sometime down the road.
We're approaching the area of religious or political argument here... Lots of people are concerned that the Equal-I-Zer weight bars allow less flex than some other systems and have a rougher ride/are harder on the trailer because of the stiffer system. The BlueOx system, for example, gets its anti-sway force from the springiness of the weight bars.

LOTS of people use the Equal-I-Zer, and I don't see lots of reports of broken frames so if there is a measurable difference I don't think it's destroying frames, just shaking things up a bit.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:23 PM   #8
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Sway Control?

I tow a 2017 23D (tongue weight a bit over 800 LBS) using a Equalizer hitch. No problems, tows great. I do run my trailer tires at 65 PSI to make for a better ride for the AS. If you are still running the stock mirrors on your Canyon you may want to take a look at "Clearview" brand tow mirrors for the Colorado and Canyon. First class mirrors that improves rear vision when running a narrow body truck like the Canyon. Sway control is a good thing to have.


I am currently in a Airstream park in Melbourne, Florida. There are approx. 200 AS parked here right now. In walking around the park I see Lots of AS with Equalizer hitches. Must not be a problem to tow an AS with a Equalizer.
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:27 PM   #9
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Met a fellow in Durango this fall that was towing a 25 with his. He ran Wolf Creek Pass with no problem.

Yes, you need weight distribution and sway control. You need it for the 19.

Best WDSC - PPP hitch Propride or Hensley - cub will work with 23, maybe?
Better WD - purchase a Reese Straightline with dual cam sway control.
Good WDSC - get a Eaz-i-Lift with a pair of brake pad sway control struts.

Do not buy an Equal-i-zer as it is too stiff for the AS.
Do buy a Blue Ox Sway Pro with 750# bars. Research before you decide.

The 23 is a great coach. Review on the 23D and 23FB threads. Lots of good info. However the D/CB and FB are different trailers with different tow characteristics. Different length and different axle position.

Travel safe and collect those smiles. Pat
We tow a 25FB with our Chevy Colorado Duramax. In October we also did Wolf Creek Pass and Monarch Pass with no trouble. We love it. We have the Equal-i-zer weight distribution hitch. I also recommend the rubber sway bracket jacket for the L-bracket to reduce noise and steel-to-steel wear. What do you mean that the Equal-i-zer is "too stiff" for an Airstream? Ours works great as far as I can tell, but I've never used any other to be able to compare.
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Old 12-07-2018, 02:13 PM   #10
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When you transit driveways, chuckholes, and similar grade changes, the EQ bars do not bend. The trailer and tow vehicle receiver are stressed by the additional force required to bridge that grade change.

The good news is that most folks take those transitions with care and the impact is minimized.

The value of the EQ is that once it is correctly tuned, it is easy to hookup and has better ground clearance that other designs.

Do your research before you buy. Travel safe. And enjoy the smiles. Pat
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I have towed by 23fc with my Chev Colorado the sister to your GMC. It was a gas however. I used a Equal-I-Zer with 600 lbs bars.

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I towed my 20' FC for three years with a Toyota Tacoma using an Equal-I-Zer with 600 lb bars and it worked great. The 20' FC has a max weight of 5,00 lbs. and I was probably close to that.

If you decide to go this route, be sure to get the Sway Bracket Jackets - they keep everything working smoothly and quietly.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Towing a 23' with a GMC Canyon diesel

I tow my 2010 23' Flying Cloud with a 2016 Chevrolet Colorado diesel. I have a Hensley Hitch and have towed all around the East coast without any problems. I'm not sure of the tongue weight, but have had no swaying or other issues to date.
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:50 AM   #14
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Yep WDH with built in sway control you be good to go. Take her to CAT scale adjust hitch & loading to basically replace your unloaded steer weight & get your hitch weight in the 10 to 15 percent range according to change in truck axle weights & she will tow safe & stable.

You might Also consider. http://www.greendieselengineering.co.../list/271.page

http://www.greendieselengineering.co...ne/2_55.action
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