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Old 11-28-2013, 11:53 AM   #15
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Welcome!! The best diesel truck is the one you can afford to buy and maintain. Don't let the name game fool you, it's all the same. One way or the other something will fail and need to be replaced. Maintenance is key so don't expect to drive 15k on the oil before you change it.

Since the game is afoot I'll say my 2006 Ford 6.0 will do what I need when I need it done. Sure I spent the money to get the known issues straight. I never had the problems you will read about since I was sensible about what I was doing. As it sits right now there's nothing I can't drop on the hitch or throw in the bed. The work will get done.

Considering a new diesel truck, the cost, the maintenance my 6.0L will be my TV for a LONG time. Good luck with your search!!
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Old 11-28-2013, 12:52 PM   #16
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Hi Pamela

Just to completely confuse you. If I was going to purchase a pick up to tow an Airstream with today hands down my choice would be the new Dodge 1500 with the 3.0 Litre Diesel and the Air suspension and 20" wheel options.

This truck will get dramatically better fuel economy than any of the 2500 series trucks while still having way more power than you need. The ride is much smoother so it is much easier on you and the Airstream. It has a wider stance and lower centre of gravity and more precise steering. As well the tires have more bite for shorter stops.

If a 5'6" box has enough cargo space it will be quite a bit more maneuverable as well.

What is your day to day vehicle now?

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Old 11-28-2013, 12:56 PM   #17
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I believe that the hardest part of the decision (gas vs diesel) of which tow vehicle to purchase has been made. As for as brand I'm personally a Chevy man, but the "best" is just a matter of prefence as they all have their good and weak points. Go out and drive them all.
Good luck with your purchase and welcome to the forum
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Old 11-28-2013, 01:29 PM   #18
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If you can find a good used 7.3 liter Navistar Powerstroke diesel ( When international Harvester used to make them prior to Ford making them) you wll not go wrong. Ask me how I know...

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Old 11-28-2013, 01:42 PM   #19
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For years I've advocated a hybrid tow vehicle. Ford with a Cummins diesel and the Allison trans. The best of all 3 worlds of made in America pick-ups. But since it's not a choice available to us I vote DODGE RAM.

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Old 11-28-2013, 03:40 PM   #20
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For years I've advocated a hybrid tow vehicle. Ford with a Cummins diesel and the Allison trans. The best of all 3 worlds of made in America pick-ups. But since it's not a choice available to us I vote DODGE RAM.

Go for it.
OH but it is available if you have the time and energy to do it.Their are actually some companies that make adapter kit for that very thing. I know where a 2005 ford F350 with the old cummins motor and an allison trannie is. It was over 10 thousand dollars for the swap to be completed but he is so happy with this truck he is getting ready to build another. So all things are possible.
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Old 11-29-2013, 01:36 AM   #21
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Hi Pamela

Just to completely confuse you. If I was going to purchase a pick up to tow an Airstream with today hands down my choice would be the new Dodge 1500 with the 3.0 Litre Diesel and the Air suspension and 20" wheel options.

This truck will get dramatically better fuel economy than any of the 2500 series trucks while still having way more power than you need. The ride is much smoother so it is much easier on you and the Airstream. It has a wider stance and lower centre of gravity and more precise steering. As well the tires have more bite for shorter stops.

If a 5'6" box has enough cargo space it will be quite a bit more maneuverable as well.

What is your day to day vehicle now?

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Andy T, are you now saying a 1500 Dodge truck is better than the Chrysler 300? Your latest article in Airstream Life states the 300 is a safer tow vehicle then a 2500 Truck. Are you implying Dodge has a different wheel base for the 1500 platform as the 2500 platform? I dont see how this would be profitable for a company to have such a change in platforms. A 1500 has softer suspension and lower towing rating, and are not the brakes smaller with the 1500 than the 2500? Tiers? Really? Truck is a Truck. How do you have insight into the inter workings of a major corporation as the Chrysler Brand?
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:24 AM   #22
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OH but it is available if you have the time and energy to do it.Their are actually some companies that make adapter kit for that very thing. I know where a 2005 ford F350 with the old cummins motor and an allison trannie is. It was over 10 thousand dollars for the swap to be completed but he is so happy with this truck he is getting ready to build another. So all things are possible.
Yes, it is available. I looked into several years ago and I believe an outfit in Fla. builds it. But i'm suffering from CRS so don't ask for the name. Sal
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:28 AM   #23
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Hi Christopher

Though we have a lot of customers with 300's and extensive towing use with them ourselves I used it more to illustrate a point in the article that there are many elements to safety and just because a vehicle is larger taller and heavier does not make it safer. In fact the combination of all three tends to be the oposite. For example the 1500 is about 2000 pounds lighter than the Dodge 3/4 ton but the brakes are virtually the same size and the tires have substantially more traction. Our 2500 Dodge is easily the worst stopping vehicle in our fleet dramatically more so if it is wet.

The independent front suspension on the 1500 gives it a much wider stance, more suspension travel, less unsprung weight and lower centre of gravity all factors that make a huge difference to handling.

If you need the carrying space of a pick up then the 1500 is a better choice than a 300. In a pure test of emergency avoidance and stopping ability the 300 is better. However plenty of people have other priorities than just accident avoidance and panic stopping distance.

I tow with all these trucks on a very regular basis so I have a very real world understanding of how they perform and what can be expected of them. For towing a 14,000 pound fifth wheel that is going to put 3000 pounds on the drive axle a 25 or 3500 is the obvious choice. If you want to carry two 700 pound motorcycles in the back of the truck again you need the load carrying of the 2500. with an Airstream with a normal load in the pickup if you test there is just no contest. As well remember you will likely drive this vehicle many times more miles solo that you will towing and as a solo vehicle it is dramatically less capable of executing and emergency maneuver or stopping quickly.

What I mentioned to Pamela was she could get the shorter wheelbase 5'6" box in the 1500 which would give her better maneuverabilty getting in and out of tight campsites etc.

I know of 3 Airsteams that were rolled over this year. A 19' on an F150 and two 31's on 2500 Dodges. Vehicle size is no guaranty of control, how you hitch it up is almost always going to be the most important factor.

Stick with me for a couple of more Airstream life articles and I will try and bring all this together in an easier to understand formula. Your question about the inner workings I will try and answer in the next issue. If you are ever in our area feel free to stop in and try out some of this stuff, I know it is very hard to beleive until you have been behind the wheel.

I hope this helps.

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Old 11-29-2013, 07:55 AM   #24
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+1 Andy T. Respectful and well reasoned reply. This is the kind of post that helps new AS owners make informed choices. Thank you. Look forward to the next article.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:19 AM   #25
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Andrew on the roll overs can you share what type of hitch setup they had?
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Awaiting delivery of our 30ft FC in January 2014--bought a GMC Denali Diesel/ Allison, just thought the look and feel suited us. Considering the top 3 come with 3 year warranties, any diesel will work, it simply comes down to what grabs you at the initial test drive. Dealer demo's will offer the most discount, just make sure it has the Exhaust Brake, helps in long down grades. The new diesels have an additive that must be changed with oil changes, adds about $25-50 to oil changes, and you should carry the two and half gallon with you on trips with extra filter. See you down the road.
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:18 AM   #27
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Pamela (the OP)...are you still out there? Are you screaming in dismay yet? The responses in this thread lead me to conclude that there is no one right answer
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..( sorry..i hit the send button inadvertently). But there are wrong ones...and those may involve having an improper hitch set up. You next have to learn about that! Good luck.
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