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Old 10-23-2016, 02:50 PM   #57
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Old 10-23-2016, 02:58 PM   #58
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Very nice looking combo! Love the matching color.
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Old 10-23-2016, 03:12 PM   #59
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Nice looking setup and great pics.
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Old 10-26-2016, 06:43 AM   #60
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So yesterday Mercedes officially announced their new mid-size truck. Anticipated payload is over 1 metric ton, they are saying 2400#'s along with 7700# tow rating. Not sure on US availability yet, but it will be at least late 2017 if it does come here at all.

Likely available with a BlueTec diesel. Jalopnik Mercedes Truck Explainer
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Old 10-29-2016, 10:29 PM   #61
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I have the Ram Ecodiesel fully loaded crew cab Laramie Ltd, 4WD with 3.92 gears and factory air suspension. I find the acceleration adequate, not great but not a limiting factor. I've climbed 8.5% grades for 20 km and never dropped below 80 kph. The transmission is by far the best I have ever owned and I've had Suburban's, Denali's, Infiniti's, F150's etc. Nothing comes close to this 8 speed. And as others have stated, it achieves excellent fuel economy. I am easily getting 15 litres/100 km towing which is just under 16 US mpg. And as a daily driver I jump into this truck before our Infiniti FX-50S, I like the truck that much. It gets better mileage around town too.

My issue is three-fold, and it's enough of an issue I am currently pricing out 3/4 tons and 1 tons:

*The Ram has a lousy payload - mine is 911 lbs - which just isn't enough for a truck and trailer loaded for camping.
* It is extremely difficult to transfer weight to the front axle. I have the equal-i-izer 4 point 10,000 lb and have spent hours making all the potential adjustments and can't get it closer than 480 lbs difference between front and rear axles, loaded for camping. I've gone across the scales 5 or 6 times while making the adjustments.
* Finally, the transmission just can't hold the trailer back on steep grades so either truck or trailer brakes, or both, have to be deployed.
I know there are many towing heavier trailers than mine with this truck and happy doing so and I have no issue with that. In my case I just am not comfortable being up against axle ratings, GCVW and well over on payload whilst using the truck and trailer brakes to maintain a safe speed down steep grades. Living in Western Canada we have lots of steep grades.

I've got another round of hitch adjustments to make and if I can't get the axle weights within 200 lbs I'll be moving up to a heavier truck.

My trailer is a '17 27FB with a weighed tongue weight of 850 lbs.
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Old 10-30-2016, 10:13 AM   #62
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Hitch receiver may not be up to the job. May need reinforcement. For that and WDH questions I'd contact Andrew Thomson at Can Am RV.

Your limits are axle/tire/wheel. Payload limit is relative, at best.

My Dad towed a larger, heavier trailer with a car for the first twelve years out of a quarter century of ownership. Similar payload limit. But a far better hitch receiver than what is OEM today as frame rails tied together at several points forward to axle, not just at rear crossmember.

See if Andy has some ideas.

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Old 10-30-2016, 02:58 PM   #63
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Thanks...I spoke to Andy a few days ago. He knows the Ram Ecodiesel very well, and is a big fan of the truck too btw. He isn't a fan of my particular hitch however.
He isn't concerned about being over on GCVW and payload, but I am. The trucks are rated for a reason, and downhill braking limitation isn't an engineering parameter, its real.
He made some suggestions which I will try next.
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Old 10-30-2016, 08:48 PM   #64
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Abone, Your main issue seems to be safe braking down a grade. As you probably know both PPEI & GDE have a tune with dramatically improved turbo braking. As well as a noticable improvement over adequate acceleration. I think you know I have the GDE & I've come down grades with 8,000 pounds of AS pushing me. Steep enough and you will have to occationally & lightly supplement the turbo brake with either the trailer brake controller or the truck brakes or both if you prefer. In any case it's no drama.

Fwiw Ram has a max CVWR rating on the 1500 Hemi to 15,950. Not that this makes any sense as it doesn't have any turbo or other brake like we have with the ED. To 6,000 pounds the GDE tune turbo brake will control the speed on a 6 percent grade by itself.

If Andys suggestions get you closer to a 50/50 bias where you are at or below your axle ratings you may yet have a situation you are confident with on the truck that you like so much. I have a different WDH & aftermarket rear axle to frame bags so not sure that I can help you there. Hopefully Andy can. Regardless all the best.
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Old 10-31-2016, 12:00 AM   #65
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Thanks Vern,
I always appreciate your input and its been very helpful while I get to know the capabilities of the truck. You make an excellent point about the Hemi GCVW. I always assumed it was due to the ED engine being heavier, which it is, but not that much. What, a couple hundred lbs heavier?
Andy suggested I drill another hole in the shank to move the load closer to the truck, and recommended which Michelins to try when I replace mine for additional load capacity. I can still add a spacer or two to my hitch, plus the dealer didn't place the brackets at the max distance, 32", because of the propane lines being in the way. That will help get more flex into my bars. Finally my last trip across the scales I was loaded a little more heavily than I would typically travel. So I have a few little adjustments to make which hopefully make a big difference.
Finally he suggested a different hitch but that would be a last resort.
Slomover above suggested reinforcing the hitch receiver so I want to ask about that too.
Thanks again,
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Using the service brakes on a downgrade is normal. A requirement dependent on descent speed, total weight, and grade.

One chooses a speed. Say, 40-mph. And begins the descent at 30-mph. As the combined rig passes 40 and hits 45, one uses the service brakes to ease it back down to 30. Repeat as required.

If Andy says dump the hitch for a better one, I'd agree. It's cheap to do so.


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Old 10-31-2016, 09:27 AM   #67
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Seems to me I read on Allpar the ED is only like 211 pounds heavier than the Hemi. It's actually physically a little smaller package it's just that much beefier.

I've also been wanting to drill a hole in the receiver shank that is closer to the truck. There looks to be just enough room to do it and it would have to help. (In many ways not just in giving leverage to the WDH) You would need a good drill & bit as it would be hard. Propane lines are quick & easy to move out of the way on an AS. Lol Refastening them to your satisfaction may not be. Many just leave them hang as their is not a lot of extra length. The combination of those two should be measurably better on the scale. Like how a little length makes a world of difference on a pry bar.

I've good experience with Michelin Defender LTX M/S & also the General Grabber HTS both having stronger side walls makes the truck feel a little more shore footed & stable. The welded strengthened receiver should also make a difference. Think I would sooner buy one of the excellent aftermarket receivers. There was a post on the ED forum where a guy bought a used ED without a receiver. Someone posted a link with an install video & review which impressed me as being much better than the factory receiver. Think the link was from etrailer. I inspect my receiver for stress cracks from time to time so far none found. Naturally a better WDH is always an option but I don't think you are going to need it. I'm sure somebody is reading thinking you should have just bought the $2k wonder hitch or bought a kidney & AS jarring HD. Tis ok I get satisfaction in going & extra mile & coming out with something better.
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The receiver shank is not hard, if it was it would break, stick it in a drill press and drill it...
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That 211 lbs takes away 211 lbs of payload
Seems to me Ram should ofer a haevy paylkoad package
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That 211 lbs takes away 211 lbs of payload
Seems to me Ram should ofer a haevy paylkoad package


They do - it's called a RAM 2500...
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