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Old 05-25-2018, 05:02 PM   #15
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Review what you do. What is best for all.

If you are buying a truck, that sounds as if you do not have one now.

Might be worth looking at options.

A lot of TVs will handle this rig.
Safari
Dry weight 5000#
Tongue weight 680#
Hensley Arrow

You need about 120in WB.
You need about 4000 lbs.
You need payload to address your stuff that can not be carried in coach.

What vehicle do you have now?
What vehicle are you most comfortable driving?

Discuss all.
Investigate all.

Number 2 may be for you. An older straight six dodge might be for you. A new 4 door Jeep might be your thing. The Durangos have a following. The Suburbans have a group of believers. The Toyotas have an increasing group of believers. There are vans that make very good TVs. Now is the time to review, cause once committed it's harder to change the plan. Go slow and get it right.

Do not ignore the option of some upgrades to improve what you decide to drive. A TV is a never ending tuning project. Better tires, brakes, suspension, hitch adjustment and storage methods all help improve the utility.

One additional thought - you may wish to go places with the TV that you don't want to take the coach. Sleeping in the TV might be a nice thing to have as an option.

Good Luck on your investigation. Hope to see your smile down the road. Pat
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:19 PM   #16
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Just waiting for the 3/4 ton crowd to pipe in.......
Skip the 3/4 and go right to 1

Kidding aside, I have wished for a short trailer but never a shorter rig.
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:21 PM   #17
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I just talked to my FedEx driver that drives a 2013 F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost and 6 speed. I asked him how he like the 3.5 as a work truck. He has had this F150 since 2013 and it has 310,000 miles on it. Oil changed at 8k and tranny service every 30k, 100k maintenance done. The driver said due to the dependability of his work truck, he bought a 2016 F150 3.5 and tows his SOB up into the Idaho mountains with no issues. He has a hard time getting it away from his wife.

I was concerned about the 3.5 twin turbochargers lasting past 100k, but this example of FedEx vehicles makes me feel more comfortable when thinking about a new F150.
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:24 PM   #18
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Be sure to look at the payload/cargo capacity on the door sticker. They often vary significantly from the online/brochure vehicle description.
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Old 05-26-2018, 06:42 AM   #19
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Just waiting for the 3/4 ton crowd to pipe in.......

OP ask opinion on 2 F-150's.
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Old 05-27-2018, 07:36 PM   #20
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Thanks for the info and feedback.

In the end we decided to go with the TV 2 which is the Silver XLT. We definitely will not be going up to a larger travel trailer. We are thinking full time but we are not sure yet. We will head out for 3 months starting August.

I am very aware of the 3.5 Eco versus 5.0 V8 plus and minuses. I spoke to a reliable Ford service person who steered me in the direction of the 5.0 over the 3.5 Eco generation 1. Buying a newer truck with the generation 2 Eco is not in the budget at the moment.

Would I like more payload then the 1766# on the door sticker? Yes
Are we willing to leave some things home and plan carefully? Yes
Am I willling to loose weight to carry extra camera gear? Yes
Could I regret the choice of vehicle? Possibly, but with 30,000 miles and a great purchase price we have room to sell and upgrade with out a big loss.

This truck has a 9500 Tow rating with optional tranny cooler and brake controller.
I have towed our 25 Safari with my current 2012 F150 SuperCab with the weaker 3.7 V6 so I have a feel for the match up. We hook up with a Hensley Arrow and I had added Tembren suspension on the rear.

I test drove a few 3/4 ton pickups so I know they would tow a 25 likes it not there but I would prefer to get a smaller trailer than be a larger truck driver. Just my perspective.

We started with a Honda Element and a tear drop. Next was a 1957 canned and ham and the F150 V6. This is the next step after a few months on the road.

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Old 05-28-2018, 04:27 AM   #21
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Dasher-

Good for ya'll. It sounds like you have a handle on things, especially since you experienced the weak end of the F150 offerings. Best wishes on your journey, and Thank You for following up. It's nice to see someone actually circle back and say "here's what we did", instead of disappearing when they don't like the input they received...……


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Old 05-28-2018, 05:32 AM   #22
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Short bed V8 hands down. That other truck looks stripped down.

Oops, missed the last post. Good choice! It’s real hard to add options after the fact and really expensive to add cylinders.
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Old 05-28-2018, 11:51 AM   #23
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Tow Vehicle

Highly, highly recommend the Big Horn Ram V-8 5.7 litre Hemi
2014 or newer. Crew Cab and a medium bed.
I tow our 25ft Serenity up McNeil Canyon (Wa State) effortlessly, over the Passes like its not even behind me and plus the interior with the crew cab is just awesome for comfort. Back seat is huge plus turns into a bed.
If you can find it, the Ram Box option for storage is really cool.

The eight speed transmission is awesome and the heavy duty tow package, brake assist, etc is fantastic.
Have talked to some folks from the mechanical world about concerns with the 6cyl eco-boost and life expectancy for strength in towing. I would'nt take that gamble on a newer concept not yet tested by time.
If you are a Ford guy I would go with the Ford F-250 or save some $$ and get the Ram 1500, its worked great for me for 3 years now.. I love it.

Also highly recommend the Blue Ox for sway control.
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:11 PM   #24
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I couldn't choose between those two.
However, there must be units with the best of both worlds.
The long bed would be a deal breaker for me, but the eco boost would be a plus.
Are you locked into a Ford? (I'm not implying that's bad)
Time to do an internet search for trucks for sale.
I had to drive three hours to find mine, but it's perfect
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Old 06-03-2018, 11:03 AM   #25
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You might want to try renting first through Enterprise to see what works best for you. We've gone even further, ditching FT truck ownership in favor of this route and have been delighted, always driving a brand new truck.
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Old 06-03-2018, 11:58 AM   #26
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pick the 2014

Remember the 2013 is made predominantly of steel where as in 2014 Ford switched to the all new aluminum body. It really didn't make a lot of difference, however I can now see my first rust spot trying to come through on a wheel well of my 2013, Choose wisely Grasshopper.
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Old 06-04-2018, 03:39 PM   #27
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All really good points. Just one point worth consideration. Stopping!

Now let’s see, today which pickup am I going to use to pull a trailer.

All have tow packages, all are King Ranch package and except for the F-150 are Super Duty.

The 2015-F150 would pull the 28’ Cloud like a breeze. But a big truck passing around or by the other way would cause the anal closure to grip the seat. Same for emergency stopping. And, same for cross winds.

Understand 1000# Blue Ox bars and complete factory tow package.

There just was not enough weight to control the TV for my taste.

Ok. Let’s try the 2015 F250 Super Cab 6.7 Diesel short wheel base. Again, same bars and packages.

This configuration would make you look back to see if the trailer was still there. But, the shorter wheel base made for a “hobbyhorse” like ride on undulating road surfaces. Stopping was not an issue, just pay attention when big trucks are close around. You have the weight and power to control the issues.

Now, let’s try the F-350 2016 6.7 Diesel long bed Super Cap Super Duty, same KR package, bars, tow package. One difference here is pulling long trailers of equipment or our 2017 30’ Twin instead of the 28’ Cloud.

The ride is akin to a limo, actually better because it is not so far to the ice bucket.
No bounce, just smooth running and emergency stop totally under control.

We now only pull the Classic with the 350. Cargo and weight distribution issues go away. Besides, with this configuration, if you need more cargo area or have weight issues, maybe it’s better to just stay home because your packing to much stuff.

All the best making your decision, but my vote is the long wheel base truck.

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Old 06-04-2018, 07:13 PM   #28
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I just traded my 2016 Expedition for a 2018 F250 Lariat Diesel. Go big or go home.
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