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Old 04-10-2016, 08:10 AM   #29
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Wow - I can only imagine what RPM the engine was at - 1st gear at 40 MPH?!? That had to lead to some heat build up in the engine too...
Heading into Taos, NM from the West, it felt like I was going to blow the engine on my 2012 Dodge Ram Hemi 5.7. Even the tow setting stopped downshifting properly. Heading into Town, the engine sounded like it was running faster than indicated on the tachometer. Fortunately, it truck recovered when it cooled down. Also, not enough attention is given to the benefits of an exhaust brake. If you have difficulty going up hill, you just destroy your engine. Difficulty going down hill, can be much worse, especially in the Rockies. :-)
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Old 04-10-2016, 09:12 AM   #30
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Diesels Stink.
The fuel stinks and the exhaust stinks.
Get some fuel on your shoes or clothes and you will smell it all day.
I have both diesel and gas tractors and don't mind the smell so much when I'm out mowing or some such but I would never want a diesel for my daily driver or when I'm trying to stay clean. My gas tractors are far more pleasant to operate.
And diesel exhaust stinks. Let the engine idle while you go back and check your hitch and it will make you choke. Plus diesels leave a greasy black smear on everything behind them. Look at trailers that are pulled by a diesel.
Diesels are Noisy too. Outside and inside the cab they are far Noisier than a gasser.
Diesels cost a lot more than a gasser and cost more to maintain. Yes they have greater longevity than a gasser. But are you willing to drive a 20 year old truck to use that extra longevity? I am not.
I suggest you buy a 3/4 ton gasser in your favorite flavor.
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Old 04-10-2016, 09:17 AM   #31
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Difficulty going down hill, can be much worse, especially in the Rockies. :-)
We had a brief glimpse of this yesterday, heading from Kerville TX to Fort Stockton on I-10 where we had a short 7% grade.

The automatic diesel brake on my 2016 Ram worked very well. The Cummins might be expensive, but for those of us with little or no towing skills, it adds a measure of safety while we slowly gain experience.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:59 PM   #32
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We started RVing in 1978 with a truck slide in on a 1976 F-250 Custom with a 360 CID, 4 speed standard 410 rear end... been through Tiffin class C, Tiffin Allegro Bus, Safari Trek, Monaco Diplomat and 3, 5th wheels (all high end garbage). We got rid of our last 5th wheel and kept the TV when we bought our 23FB Flying Cloud. The TV is a Tundra TRD 4X4 SR5 with tow package: Firestone air bags on the rear, 48 gallon fuel tank. We have pulled this rig from Florida to Vermont multiple times, through the Application Mountains from North Georgia, Tennessee, the Carolina's into the Poconos, then down to the hill country in Texas... Nothing scary, no issues with big rigs, wind or tire failures on the GYM 14" factory set up with ball only, no WDH or anti sway other than the features the Tundra TRD package adds to the mix. We keep it at 65 MPH and just smile when others towing at 80 blow by us. (we often see them down the road with a blow out or overheated vehicle). FYI we load with common sense and carry our 60 pound American Bulldog, our 35 pound Wheaten Terrier, my 185 pounds and my wife's XXXX pounds (I'm not crazy). In my humble opinion, you can save a lot of money by maintaining your equipment and using it with care and respect.
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Old 03-19-2017, 10:28 AM   #33
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We finally joined the ranks and purchased a 2016 Flying Cloud 28'. But this was the cart before the horse purchase, so now I am looking for the horse (tow vehicle and hitch configuration). We live in Florida, and often travel to the NC Mountains to visit family, so I need something beefy and safe enough for our family of five. I'd prefer an SUV instead over a Pick-up so we would have the third row seating and storage capabilities. We also enjoy long (two week) summer trips and are were use to traveling in a motorhome; not cramped in a car.

The GVW of the trailer is 7,600 lbs with a Hitch Weight of 976 lbs.

Important Considerations for me:
  1. Least amount of sway & full control from passing Semi's
  2. Able to travel in the mountains
  3. Room for the family & dog
  4. Fuel Efficiency
  5. Overall price and affordability
  6. Tow Package requirements, Transmissions Speeds/Coolers, Break Packages, Etc.
  7. Low stress traveling
  8. Dependability
Let the opinions roll... Don't hold back. I am looking for all the Pros and Cons. The last thing I want is an great trailer that it too stressful to tow.
The problem you will have in towing a 28 with an SUV is the tongue weight. For example, a Ford Expedition has a max allowable tongue weight of 920 lbs using a weight distribution hitch (600 lbs without the WD hitch). That said, I know there are people who happily tow 30 footers with smaller SUV's. The problem as I see it is that if you have a wreck and the plaintiff's attorney finds out you've exceeded the manufacturer's rating, you're toast.
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Old 03-19-2017, 10:56 AM   #34
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The problem you will have in towing a 28 with an SUV is the tongue weight. For example, a Ford Expedition has a max allowable tongue weight of 920 lbs using a weight distribution hitch (600 lbs without the WD hitch). That said, I know there are people who happily tow 30 footers with smaller SUV's. The problem as I see it is that if you have a wreck and the plaintiff's attorney finds out you've exceeded the manufacturer's rating, you're toast.
This stuff gets tiring, but if your receiver hitch is too light for the trailer (and I'm not sure his one is), do what Airstreamers have been doing for generations and what many on this forum are doing today, replace it with a stronger receiver hitch or have it reinforced as needed.

The Expedition is a large SUV, more stable than a pickup truck with it's full independent suspension and has a strong Ecoboost engine. A versatile and capable tow vehicle. It would be unfortunate to disregard it because of it's receiver hitch (for crying out loud!).

As for supporting the argument with another legal warning, it's used frequently and never supported. Waste of time.
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Old 03-19-2017, 01:32 PM   #35
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This stuff gets tiring, but if your receiver hitch is too light for the trailer (and I'm not sure his one is), do what Airstreamers have been doing for generations and what many on this forum are doing today, replace it with a stronger receiver hitch or have it reinforced as needed.

The Expedition is a large SUV, more stable than a pickup truck with it's full independent suspension and has a strong Ecoboost engine. A versatile and capable tow vehicle. It would be unfortunate to disregard it because of it's receiver hitch (for crying out loud!).

As for supporting the argument with another legal warning, it's used frequently and never supported. Waste of time.
The hitch weight limitation has more to do with the axle capacity than with the hitch strength. You can strengthen the hitch attachment but you can't easily beef up the axles and the suspension.
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The hitch weight limitation has more to do with the axle capacity than with the hitch strength. You can strengthen the hitch attachment but you can't easily beef up the axles and the suspension.
Fortunately, we have manufacturer's ratings for vehicle weight and axle capacities, and scales to verify that vehicles are operating within those weight ratings.

An artificially low tow and tongue weight rating that isn't substantiated by a limited axle capacity has everything to do with the strength of the receiver.
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:14 PM   #37
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Fortunately, we have manufacturer's ratings for vehicle weight and axle capacities, and scales to verify that vehicles are operating within those weight ratings.

An artificially low tow and tongue weight rating that isn't substantiated by a limited axle capacity has everything to do with the strength of the receiver.
But I would say that by using an Expedition to tow a 28 you are overloading the axles. You have almost a 1000 tongue weight plus 1000 worth of passengers plus luggage.
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