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Old 03-14-2015, 03:43 PM   #57
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I have a Hensley Arrow that I bought new when I bought my 2005 Safari 25FB. Yes, it was expensive, but so was my Airstream. I towed that first Airstream over 120,000 miles, and spent over 1,300 nights in her. In 2013, I traded the 2005 Safari on a 2012 Flying Cloud 23FB. The same Hensley went on this Airstream. I towed her 15,000 miles and spent 150 nights in her. In 2014, I again traded Airstreams. We moved to a 2015 Flying Cloud 25FB. Again, the same Hensley went on her. We have now towed the 2015 5,000 miles and have spent 60 nights in her.

We have now covered 140,000 Airstream towing miles, and have spent 1,500 nights of Airstream camping. All of this experience has been with a Hensley Arrow Hitch System on three different tow vehicles. My experience has been that there is absolutely no sway ever, under any circumstances or conditions. The towing is always straight and steady regardless of road conditions or other traffic.

All of this being said, I know that there are some members on these Forums who feel that I am stupid for spending so much money on a hitch. There are also many RVers who think that I am stupid for spending so much money on a travel trailer. All I can say is that they have the right to their opinions, and I have the right to mine.

If some folks want to buy a brand new $10,000 travel trailer and hook it to their car with a $50 hitch, that is their choice. I respect their opinion. All I ask is the same form them.

On these forums, I try to share the experience that I have along with my opinions on certain issues relating to Airstreaming. I try never to characterize as stupid another's opinion. Some seem to revel in doing this.

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Hi, Brian; You no doubt have done a lot of towing with your Hensley Arrow, but you failed to mention that your hitch broke and had to be repaired, replaced, or exchanged. In all fairness I believe that this should also have been mentioned. You also stated that it took about four hours to do the change out, and later in another post said it was a less than one hour job.
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Old 03-14-2015, 04:03 PM   #58
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Hi, Brian; You no doubt have done a lot of towing with your Hensley Arrow, but you failed to mention that your hitch broke and had to be repaired, replaced, or exchanged. In all fairness I believe that this should also have been mentioned. You also stated that it took about four hours to do the change out, and later in another post said it was a less than one hour job.

Yes, the Hensley head did come apart in Washington while on a trip. It was readily replaced by Hensley under their lifetime warranty. At that time, the hitch had been in use for approximately 125,000 miles. It did take several hours to replace the head as the replacement head had to be completely removed and weighs about 100#. Also, the broken head had to be packed and shipped back to Hensley.

I also personally installed the Hensley on each of my Airstreams. When taking a Hensley from on trailer to another, it is quicker work as there is no heavy lifting involved because the tow vehicle does the heavy work.

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Old 03-14-2015, 04:04 PM   #59
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I guess Hensley's and ProPrides are the only hitches that wear out and break?


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Old 03-14-2015, 04:25 PM   #60
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Thank You for being the first person in the world to be able to explain why instead of the usual, "Because" type answer.
Dang - I thought I was the first guy who gave that kind of answer.... :-)

Post #17 here (from 2013) is an example of thinking through the why of any decision (in this case, hitches). I've posted something like this probably dozens of times when the "best hitch" question shows up again (and again) - just as you frequently share the story of the only sway your trailer has experienced :-)

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...-112639-2.html

By the way - I'm sure someone has provided their rationale well before that - I guess I'm just surprised that you found such a response novel. While not as frequent perhaps as unsupported "just because" opinions, I think this happens a lot in these forums and is helpful to understand how folks think. Pharmgeek has a huge thread on the decision making process for camp chairs (did you get those yet, Pharm? :-) ) as another example.
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Old 03-14-2015, 11:09 PM   #61
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"My trailer has, only once, swayed violently out of control. This was with my trailer parked in my driveway during a 5.0 Earthquake."
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just as you frequently share the story of the only sway your trailer has experienced :-)
Hi, yes, I do use this story quite often and for those who missed it, I will tell it again.

My trailer is usually parked very close to the side of my house and to work on my trailer, I need to pull it forward towards the street. [can't open the door] I was working on my Fantastic Vent at the time. My plunger switch was bad and it requires disconnecting the wire from inside and removal of the switch from above. I had my ladder on my neighbor's lawn and leaning against the side of my trailer. I climbed up on top of my trailer to remove the plunger switch. I got down from the ladder with the switch in my hand and I was going to go to the local auto parts store to buy another one. But first I didn't want to leave my ladder on my neighbor's lawn, so I moved it to my driveway, behind my trailer. I then walked into my garage to leave my tools and was headed down my driveway to take my car to the store. As I was nearing my trailer, I heard a big bang, and my trailer was violently swaying from side to side. My first thought was that some idiot went up my driveway and ran into my trailer with a truck. As I went to the front of my trailer, no-one was there. Within minutes, several neighbors started to come out of their houses to see what happened; At that time, I knew we just had an Earthquake. And to think, only a few minutes ago, I was on top of my trailer. What a disaster that could have been. Later on the news, it was stated that Southern California, in my area, had a Five Point Oh [5.0] Earthquake.
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AaAaaah! One of my fears is being on an unsecured ladder in that circumstance.

I have a tendency to tie adders in place just in case. SoCal paranoia, I guess.


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Hi folks. Great forum and this is my first post. Just took delivery of new 28 FB. TV is Chevy 1500/ 5.2 v8 w/ max tow pkg and PP hitch. Towed home from Colonial AS in Lakewood NJ to north east PA. About 170 miles in very heavy traffic. PP is outstanding! I have experience with other hitches/ trailers etc. No comparison! ... As to the issue at hand( moving trailer at service Fac.) I think R Carl has the answer. A penel ( spelling?) type arrangement would solve the problem. Also would help on very uneven camp sites . Just pull out to a more level spot. Swap out the penel for PP stinger , hook up, go. If R Carl could provide some more details on fabricating this ,it would be very much appreciated.
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Hi folks. Great forum and this is my first post. Just took delivery of new 28 FB. TV is Chevy 1500/ 5.2 v8 w/ max tow pkg and PP hitch. Towed home from Colonial AS in Lakewood NJ to north east PA. About 170 miles in very heavy traffic. PP is outstanding! I have experience with other hitches/ trailers etc. No comparison! ... As to the issue at hand( moving trailer at service Fac.) I think R Carl has the answer. A penel ( spelling?) type arrangement would solve the problem. Also would help on very uneven camp sites . Just pull out to a more level spot. Swap out the penel for PP stinger , hook up, go. If R Carl could provide some more details on fabricating this ,it would be very much appreciated.

If you're talking about the recommendation in post #12 I'm not sure how that could work. The problem being described is the PP that sits on the a-frame and encompasses the ball. The "box" on the head that receives the stinger has nothing that device could pin in to. You need something that can connect with the over center latches.
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Unless you use the stinger with the latches and slip a receiver over that. Then you could use the pin that would otherwise go on the TV to connect the two.


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Yes same dealer, by the overpass, which is why we drove from Colorado to NJ to purchase our AS. We go out-of-state for service. We tried multiple times to do business with the Denver AS dealer and their attitude is the same on the sales side as you experienced on the service side. So sad.....
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Several years ago someone had an acessory for sale in the classified section that went with Hensley so it could be toed with a regular ball. Forgot the name of it and who manufactured it. They wanted about $90 for it. I came close to buying it but sold the trailer that had the Hensley. I want to say it was called a Black ______, maybe a animal name. All the tractors and fork lifts that Rv repair company's use are equipped with ball and can't move a Hensley
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All the repair shop needs is your Henley/ProPride stinger (if they don't have one of their own), and they can move your trailer with anything equipped with a receiver.

Airstream Service Jackson Center uses a tractor and your stinger, routine to them, they move a few every day.

If they say they can't they are feeding you b.s. or ignorance about travel trailers, you ought to look for a better shop.
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It is warranty work and they are the only Airstream Dealer in Denver. I don't feel like I should need to take it out of town or out of state to have warranty work done without removing the ProPride.
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Why is it that there appears to be a common consensus among those owning an Airstream needing service or purchasing one in Colorado and more than a couple of isolated owners? Same dealer? Maybe Airstream will understand why I prefer NOT to take mine into this shop for any Service and have been paying out of pocket on my 2014 International.

They sell the Equalizer Hitch system now. In 2006 it was another brand that used the bar and chains... name I forget.

Then finally have my Equalizer Hitch worked out, as another from the same dealership reported with a hitch setup wrong. The Thread was removed from the Off Topic a week ago, but the complaints keep coming...
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