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Old 01-28-2013, 04:51 PM   #15
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Thanks for all the thoughts on the tires. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go ahead with the 18's and the LT upgrade from Ford. I don't feel that going to an load range E is going to be meaningful. The 20's might be a touch better for towing but I'd rather stay with the 18's when venturing down crappy roads or trails when not towing.

Unfortunately, I can't order the HD payload option. It is not available with short bed or with some of the options I want such as HID headlamps.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:00 PM   #16
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Shifting from the 3.73 ratio to the 3.4x will reduce the tow rating capacity of the truck (how heavy a trailer can be "pulled" has nothing to do with the tongue weight on the rear of the truck) and the GCWR of the truck. Play with the build sheets and note the tow ratings for the different rear axle ratios.
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From what I'm seeing it sure sounds like the 3:55 is the way to go. However, Ford won't do it with the max tow package, only the 3:73.
Yea, and what Swiz said is true too, that axle ratio impacts towing ability. What I have picked up from the 150 forum ecoboost towing crowd is that the engine does well for towing with the 3:55-3.73; however, the overall thought is that with the 5.0 engine, for example, they strongly recommend the 3.73 ratio while with the eco not so much as it is powerful enough without the extra "low grunt" and the 3:55 is sufficient. I also noticed what you said. Now Ford is no longer offering the option of the 3:55 with at least the one towing package, only the standard 3.73. I did not confirm this but it sounds like any towing pkg offering is now 3.73. Regardless, you are getting a good truck.
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I'm getting ready to order an F150 Ecoboost in the next couple of days. With max tow package...pushing this truck close to max on payload capacity, my main concern is with tires. Any great insights on all of this from others would be appreciated (other then the obvious of jumping up to a 3/4 ton TV).
Just the fact that they even offer a P rated tire for this vehicle would scare me...

Good luck...you have already stated the obvious.
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I've got a 2012 FX4 with the factory Goodyear LT 275/65/R18. We're very happy with the tires - I just drove through a blizzard to get to work and they were wonderful. The 20" look nice but I suspect replacement cost is higher on them than the 18's - I've been down that road before.

I went with the FX4 because it was really the only way to find a 150 with the 3.73 at the time. The Max Tow XLT models were impossible to find at the time and the FX4 came with the 3.73 by default. The dealer wasn't entirely convinced the 3.73 was necessary but I wanted it.

For what it's worth, we went with the 5.0 litre and I love it. Originally was going to get the Ecoboost but when we did the math the return on investment was 10 years and I'm not likely to keep it that long. The V8 is fun if you are in to that.
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You should definately order the 3.73 with traction control 4X4. Also, if they offer a "snow plow" option, take it. By doing so you will get an upgrade front shocks, HD radiator and higher rated alternator, all for about $100. It's one of the least known secrets for truck options and one of the best. Also, if any of your options have the chrome running bar, decline it and go with the flat fiber step instead. Reason is when you go through mud or snow with the chrome bar, the mud, etc gets packed into the under part of your doors. With the flat running board, your doors stay clean. Don't forget to order the rear camera as well, a life saver when hooking up.

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If you order a Lariat Supercrew, 6.5' box and 3.73 limited-slip diff, it's the HD Payload package and comes with E-rated LT tires and 7-lug wheels (17" aluminum wheels), etc. It's a 1,000-lb payload increase over the baseline config for the same truck. (2620 for 2WD, 2310 for 4WD.) Here's the 2013 brochure online with the info.
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If you order a Lariat Supercrew, 6.5' box and 3.73 limited-slip diff, it's the HD Payload package and comes with E-rated LT tires and 7-lug wheels (17" aluminum wheels), etc. It's a 1,000-lb payload increase over the baseline config for the same truck. (2620 for 2WD, 2310 for 4WD.) Here's the 2013 brochure online with the info.
The HD payload package would be nice but they severally limit what you can order with the HD package. No HID's, better stereo, rear camera, 5'5" bed length, etc.

Very frustrating that Ford is not more flexible with the options on these.
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Just the fact that they even offer a P rated tire for this vehicle would scare me...

Good luck...you have already stated the obvious.
So should someone that is buying a Raptor be scared because they offer the F150's in 2wd? Some customers are buying F150's that want a better ride and are not using them to haul heavy loads (or trailers).

I'm thankful they offer the choices for different needs and uses. Just wish they offered the HD payload package with some of the higher end options.
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The HD payload package would be nice but they severally limit what you can order with the HD package. No HID's, better stereo, rear camera, 5'5" bed length, etc.

Very frustrating that Ford is not more flexible with the options on these.
Are you trying to configure an XLT or a Lariat? The Lariat with trailer tow, hd payload and 501a includes the rear view camera, so you can't configure it as an option. You can configure it with nav or with the upgraded Sony stereo.

You're right that it requires the 6.5' box, I think that particular wheelbase is required for the HD Payload pkg, probably something to do with the frame construction (just a guess.) It looks like what's unavailable with Lariat + HD Payload is package 502a, which has the HIDs and they're not a standalone option. Everything else in 502a is available as a standalone, though, so all you have to give up is HIDs. I haven't driven a 2013 at night, so I don't know if the headlights are as disappointing as those on my '07... after years of driving behind the projectors in my Legacy, I'm spoiled to bright light in a good pattern, but I think I'd give up good lights for 1,000 lb in payload and upgrade the lights afterwards.

PS: And yes, I completely agree that Ford makes it hard to order just the right thing... part of it is that their configurator just doesn't SHOW options that would require you to change a prior choice... e.g. if you pick the wrong rear axle or box length, it won't show you the HD Payload package that would require you to change the rear axle and/or box. I can see no reason that the HIDs shouldn't be available with HD Payload, though... maybe they don't want you to have HIDs without fancy chrome 20s?
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