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Old 08-17-2012, 07:37 AM   #1
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Angry Tire blow out- anyone using Carlisle tires?

hola folks. we had a quick trip 3 hours a way this weekend. While traveling around 50 - 55 mph we had our first ever tire blowout. these were carlisle tires, bias - ply (6 ply i believe). we put them on new in 2010 and took 1 major road trip across country (7k miles) then another trip 16 hours total, maybe another 1200 miles. they have under 10k miles on them, and i was surprised to see them fail so soon. they damaged the underside of the trailer, too.

i should note that we did NOT cover the tires and they were kept on the trailer in the sun. this was the only reason i could think of why it would have failed so soon.

I went online to buy a replacement tire, and when i googled carlisle tires, i came across this link;

Carlisle Radial ST Utility Tire Reviews. Buying Guides & Consumer Product Reviews - Epinions.com

of 57 reviews, at least 80-90% give it 1 of 5 starts and have experienced blow outs.

Anyone here have a similar experience?

I went with carlisle because i wanted an American made tire. Looks like I didn't do my research. Do you have any other suggestions for american made tires? since i need 2 new ones now, should i stay with bia ply or radial? it's a '62 GT.

Thank you : /
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:10 AM   #2
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Stay away from trailer tires. What is the rim diameter and how much does the trialer weigh?

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Old 08-17-2012, 08:14 AM   #3
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what do you mean stay away from trailer tires? what do i use then, truck tires? the size is 15". heres the specifics;

CARLISLE ST225/75R-15" RADIAL Tire, Load Range C

trailer weight is 3500 - 4000lb depending on water weight, stuff we're packing, etc.
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Look at this thread. I hear about problems with ST tires bias and radial but have not heard anything bad about car tires blowing out when used on trailers.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ire-83262.html

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Old 08-17-2012, 08:19 AM   #5
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You would probably be ok with the 235/75-R15XL (2100lb or so load rating) but they are bigger and may not fit in your fender well. Others have gone to 16" rims and higher load range tires are available in that size. It may take away the vintage look if you change rims though.

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Old 08-17-2012, 08:22 AM   #6
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not really interested in buying new rims. just bought 'um in 2010. : /
do ya think the 235's would've prevented a blow out? whats the idea behind the 235's? you think the weight of my trailer is too much for the tires?
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We had Carlyle troubles years ago - blowouts and trailer damage. Turns out the tires were old when we bought them. Now we know to check the manufacture date. Now we use Maxxis and they have been good to us (knock on wood).
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:35 AM   #8
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My experience: two Carlyse tires, one blowout. The tire only was two years old.
Perryg knows his stuff. Stay away from ST tires of any brand. They are made to a standard lower than their likely use, i.e., temps less than 100 degrees and speeds less than 65 mph. On a hot, long freeway trip, your odds of blowout are good with any ST tire.
I went with Michelin P235 R 75XL on my tandem axle Safari. Car and LT tires are under the scrutiny of NTSB and are made to endue hotter temps and higher speeds. 235's are only slightly bigger than 225's and fit in the wheelwells of my AS with room to spare.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:46 AM   #9
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do you have a vintage trailer? i have a 62' GT. my only concern is will they fit. i've been reading the thread perry gave me...
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also will the 235's fit on the same rim as the 225? thanks all....
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Try 225/70-15 goodyear G-24 tires or Continal Tradesman tires 2900 weight rating
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You can get the 235 in a XL rating that is higher than a standard car tire. It is also wider so it can carry more load at lower pressures. I think the Michelins in 235 XL would be a great tire for your trailer. Getting an IR thermometer can make measuring tire temps easy. When the tire starts getting near 200F you need to back off and slow down. You can also use it to adjust pressures. When the temp in the center and sides is the same you are good. When it is hotter in the center too much pressure and hotter on edges means too low pressure or overloaded tire.

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also will the 235's fit on the same rim as the 225? thanks all....
All that tire stuff (the letters and numbers) actually mean something, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code. In this case, the 225 and 235 refer to the nominal width in millimeters. So a 235 is only 10 mm (.4 inch) wider than a 225.

So yes, it will fit nicely on the same rim. As far as total width goes, that is less than a quarter of an inch on each side. Not really that much.
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thank goodness for airforums! this is great info. perry, i'm trying to get the tires your recommend. i appreciate the advice.

last question; is it a terrible idea to keep the 225 radial as a spare? it has 200 miles on it. can i use the 225 temporarily with a 235 if one of the 235's blows?
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